From what I read the distinction between technical and content abuse may be blurred on occasions.  The problem seems to be how to deal with content abuse complaints eg intellectual property infringement; trademark and copyright infringement; piracy and so on.    I understand that ICANN has no policy development on content abuse issues but only dispute resolution agreements.  

25 Şub 2021 Per 14:26 tarihinde Tijani BEN JEMAA via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> şunu yazdı:

Good morning,

You can't imagine how happy I am to read this exchange. If it was a little bit earlier, it would be better but it's still an excellent move.

I have been informed by Fahd that our session won't be included in the ICANN 70 schedule and we have to schedule it after.
So, now that we don't have the time constraint (we are free to schedule it whenever we want), I propose to have a call to discuss all these alternatives. A doodle will be sent to find the best time. I hope you will all attend it. After that call, a new timeline will be established.

Best 


farzaneh badii via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> a écrit :

Hi all, 

 
It is an interesting suggestion but the problem is that content abuse has nothing to do with ICANN and ICANN mission. ICANN mission is limited and technical. Some groups have for many years tried to expand ICANN mission through various ways and one was to argue ICANN should do something about content abuse. They have fortunately not succeeded much because it clearly is against its mission and if ICANN gets involved with content regulation, it violates its own bylaws. So I am not sure how the division is going to help. 

On Thursday, February 25, 2021, Nadira Alaraj via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> wrote:
I do support the direction of NP Kurtböke on developing the regional perspective and understanding of the DNS abuse regardless the different debates in ICANN constituencies.

On Thu, 25 Feb 2021 at 9:15 AM NP Kurtböke via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> wrote:
G'day! This is learning experience for me so apologies in advance for any 'cultural' mistakes; (ie "ICANN Culture").  A distinction is being made between CONTENT abuse and TECHNICAL abuse. If there's support for these to be included in the topics list it might be better to form two groups to work separately on these 2 different types of abuse.  Personally; I'm unable to contribute to a potential technical abuse group but I might be able to contribute to a potential content abuse group (I think!). 

24 Şub 2021 Çar 21:50 tarihinde Amr Elsadr via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> şunu yazdı:

Hi,

 

I agree with Farzaneh. If we can’t agree on a statement regarding DNS Abuse, I’m not sure on how we would proceed with it as a topic we wish to address as a regional community. As Farzaneh has suggested, a conversation on how to handle this might be in order.

 

The Sub Pro PDP final report is a topic we may wish to weigh in on. The GNSO Council recently adopted the Consensus outputs coming produced by that report, and the ICANN Board will hold a public comment period on it, as part of its process in considering adopting it in its own turn. Our work on this report could be to address it during ICANN 70, or to prepare ourselves drafting a submission during that public comment period, or both.

 

It would be a good idea for our community members to familiarize themselves with this report in order to be able to hold a meaningful discussion, and to reach consensus on a statement addressing it, but spoiler alert…, it’s a 400-page document, and not exactly light bedtime reading. Am happy to hear suggestions on how to proceed with this, practically speaking.

 

The Sub Pro PDP final report is available here: https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/final-report-newgtld-subsequent-procedures-pdp-02feb21-en.pdf

 

Thanks.

 

Amr

 

From: Middle-East <middle-east-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of farzaneh badii via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org>
Reply-To: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, 24 February 2021 at 5:44 PM
To: Chokri Ben Romdhane <chokribr@gmail.com>
Cc: Middle East ICANN <middle-east@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [ME ICANN] Call for topics Deadline Extended To 24-Feb-2021 at 23:59 UTC

 

Thank you Tijani. I agree with Chokri. I don’t think discussion on DNS abuse can lead to a coherent statement on our behalf since it’s a very contested issue. We can discuss it on a call. 

 

What part of subsequent procedure would people want to work on? I have heard it’s a lot of materials to work with. We can pick a couple of issues perhaps. 

On Wednesday, February 24, 2021, Chokri Ben Romdhane via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> wrote:

Thank you Tijani and Amr,

I personally support Subsequent Procedure since DNS abuse is continue to be  a very argued topic.

Friendly regards.

Chokri

 

Le mer. 24 févr. 2021 à 09:40, Tijani BEN JEMAA via Middle-East <middle-east@icann.org> a écrit :

Dear ME Space community,

Amr Essadr proposed for the ME DNS Forum interesting topics that we may use:
- DNS Abuse
- New gTLD Subsequent Procedure

I do support them and especially the DNS abuse one.

Have a nice day

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