Hello:

This was my understanding too as noted below by Marita and Susannah.  I agree with Susannah's proposed approach.

Leah

On 6/1/17 12:46 PM, Susannah Gray wrote:

Hi all,

Perhaps we should contact the policy 'shepherds' and ask how we can put forward a new definition for consideration. I think it should be as simple as posting a proposed new definition to the ARIN policy mailing list and asking the community for comments.

As far as I am aware the policy has not been changed because there was no consensus gained during ARIN39 to remove the clause about community networks, mainly due to the comments made by the NARALO representatives. So, the policy will be discussed again at the next meeting in San Jose in October, and it would be a good idea to circulate a proposed definition before then.

Cheers,

Susannah


On 01/06/2017 06:07, Marita Moll wrote:

We already did provide an intervention -- at the meeting itself. The result was that the policy was not to be removed at the moment and that the definition of community networks (i.e. the demand that they be totally volunteer driven) should be revisited.

At least, that's how I remember it.

Marita


On 6/1/2017 3:02 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi  

Leslie Noble made mention of the Community Network Policy Update 

ARIN Removal of Community Network Policy

Perhaps we need to chat about this and be prepared to provide an intervention.  Perhaps led by Shelly and Marita  who are experts on community networks 

My own focus is very small community network(mesh)  
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On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 2:16 PM, Susannah Gray <susannah.gray@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Marita


On 31/05/2017 05:29, Marita Moll wrote:

Thanks Glenn. Could you elaborate (or offer a link) on the reference to FIRE -- some comnet funding in place for Uganda & South Africa.

- www.fireafrica.org. It's AFRINIC's grant/award program. They fund all sorts of projects that use the Internet to solve local ICT issues. The two community network projects mentioned are:

Tobesta (ZA): https://www.afrinic.net/fr/library/news/1909-fire-awards-winners-2016

Bosco (Uganda): http://fireafrica.org/grant-awards-winners-2016

Thanks,

Susannah

Marita


On 5/31/2017 4:24 AM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi 
If you recall at the last  ARIN meeting we saw many of our  NARALO members comment on the   ARIN Community Networks policy 

See policy document 

I spoke with ARIN staff about their programs on community networks  today and they too are struggling with fee structure for AFRNIC Membership from community networks.   Note they fund  FIRE  which has funded community networks in Uganda and in South Africa.

Perhaps  we need to ask our community to request financial support for ARIN for community networks as well.  
Comments?

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