On 02/02/07, Jacob Malthouse <jacob.malthouse@icann.org> wrote:

Hey Darlene,

This is just a personal observation, but I really think that no one
should feel terrified to post on any list anywhere, let alone an ICANN
list which is supposed to be encouraging newcomers.

There are no stupid questions and all contributions are useful.

I am personally very glad that you are interested in this work Darlene
and hope you'll continue to stay involved and to learn about the issues
under discussion here.

cheers,

Jacob.

Thompson, Darlene wrote:
> As speaking as one of the "newcomers", I know that I would definitely
> appreciate a short history.  I'm terrified to post anything here as I
> don't feel that I understand the context/history enough to make a useful
> contribution.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Darlene
>
> Darlene A. Thompson
> Community Access Program Administrator
> Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
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> [mailto: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Robert
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> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:07 PM
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> Evan:
>
> Wendy and others have long been involved in ICANN and have concerns
> that should not be readily dismissed by newcomers. Might I suggest
> Wendy and others spend the time to explain the context and history a
> bit better...
>
> In the meantime, my comments on a possible MoU are as follows:
>
> The ALS in the NA region should develop a MoU that  is far more
> precise and detailed vis-a-vis the document which the latin american
> region agreed to. Roles, responsibilities , expectations and
> mechanisms ensure transparency of both ICANN and ALS's, i believe
> must be precisely stated.
>
> After all, with finances (ie. budget allocations) involved - the
> document should be as tight as possible.
>
> regards
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> On 31-Jan-07, at 10:52 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:
>
>> Wendy Seltzer wrote:
>>> On the other hand, if the MoU is not a contract, it doesn't
>>> provide the signing ALSs or RALO any remedies if ICANN breaches
>>> the terms of its agreement such as by failing to support the
>>> secretariat, failing to make  documents available, or continued
>>> lack of transparency.  Perhaps the ALSs want stronger remedies --
>>> i.e., maybe we want to push for a real contract with a real
>>> possibility of money damages.
>>>
>> "We" (at least speaking for my personal participation in this "we")
>> will
>> NOT push for a "real contract" or monetary penalties, especially
>> from a
>> non-profit. In fact, "we" (from my POV) will actively oppose it. My
>> ALS
>> joined this process in order to assist ICANN, not aquire a collective
>> opportunity to sue it.
>>
>> I for one am happy to go along with the process Nick described that
>> LAC
>> had done, in electing the reps upon completion of the MOU. As for
>> contracts versus MOUs, if I am in the minority and people here really
>> want the abilility to sue ICANN, then at least set the jurisdiction in
>> Canada or somewhere else which has real social and/or legal
>> disincentives to frivolous litigation.
>>
>> - Evan
>>
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