hi, I think that ratio is rather good. And I asked because I did not know. Carlton: I do not understand the reference to priests. But then again I do not understand the differentiation people are making between a job one does for money and one that one does as a volunteer. I always thought I need to bring the same level of devotion to both - if anything, perhaps even a bit more goes to the volunteer job because I am doing it because I think it is needed and I want to and not just because someone is giving me money. And no, please before anyone jumps at me defensively, this is not meant as either a VolunteerBash or a StaffBash*. avri * An aside: is it possibe to disagree with or criticise a member of ICANN staff without being accused of StaffBashing? On 22 Jul 2012, at 21:16, Carlton Samuels wrote:
Hey Darlene: I'm following the discussion and just to contextualize your note, let not your heart be troubled. Instead, take pride in 10-14 people regularly - regularly! - on a telecon! This, from a 22-member RALO!
To compare, my own RALO has 37 ALS. We set the quorum for a teleconference to a bottom feeding 8. And I can't tell you how many times we struggle to have a quorate telecon.
You can well imagine how this works without an understand of what consensus decision-making means, in practice.
...and why this idea that my job - in a voluntary association! - ought to be akin that of a priest leaves me cold!
- Carlton
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:19:35 +0000 From: "Thompson, Darlene" <DThompson1@GOV.NU.CA> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ? To: Avri Doria <avri@ella.com>, NA-Discuss Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Hey Avri,
We regular,y get 10 - 14 people on our conference calls. If you can suggest a way to get more I would love to hear it!
D
Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [ na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Avri Doria [ avri@ella.com] Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:36 PM To: NA-Discuss Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Voting None of the Above Re: ?
Hi,
Doesn't this mean we really need to do outreach to the ALS that form the RALO to make sure that at least those organizations that have heard of ICANN and joined a RALO, are frequently invited into the discussion? And I know it isn't easy.
We seem to have 22 ALSes in NARALO. How many participate in meeting? in votes?
avri
On 19 Jul 2012, at 14:01, Bob Bruen wrote:
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