On 16 May 2016 at 04:52, Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml@communisphere.com> wrote:

Following up on the recent exchange here on NARALO Discuss, concerning the 4 changes to New York City's .nyc registry agreement, and my belief that modification to the extant operating processes were in order, today I reviewed the ICANN By-Laws as they relate to ALAC responsibilities. And it seems apparent that more should be done to keep New York City's individual Internet users informed and engaged about ICANN activities.

I fervently disagree, both that "more should be done" and even defining what that "more" is.

This is getting tiring. Every so often we see raised the issue of community involvement in .nyc. Every time the challenges, problems and bad assumption identified in the grievance is ignored. Then the discussion just drops, only to come back some time later raise the issue again as if it's brand new.

I base this conclusion on my reading of Article XI, subsection 2.4.j which lists 10 resp
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nsibilities of ALAC. If one considers responsibilities 2, 4, 5, 6, and 10, one is likely to conclude that something fell through the cracks in the 4 instances where the registry agreement was changed and the city's individual Internet users were not informed.

Quoting the ICANN bylaws is FAR from enough. I've been extremely close to those bylaws and have frequently made the case that ALAC under-utilized its authority on a number of occasions.

This is not one of those occasions.

Think about it... Between December 1, 2014 and March 31, 2016 four (4) changes were made to the .nyc registry agreement. No effort was made to inform New York City's individual Internet users about these changes or their possible impact.

I thought about it. For a long time, a long time ago.

BIG DEAL.

I looked at the changes. They apply to the use of two-letter second-level domains and the collection of additional information on registrants to verify their legitimacy to use the domain.

After reading clauses 2, 4, 5, 6 and 10 does anyone disagree with my conclusion, that more should be done to keep New York City's individual Internet users informed and engaged about ICANN activities?

Specifically, what in the proposed changes does the end-user community of New York City (meaning some group of people significant larger then you alone) have a problem with?

If your problem is with process rather than substance, it is my opinion that you're wasting our time. The registry for .nyc is the city government of New York, governed by elected representatives.

Moreover, previously when you have raised issued related to .nyc you refuse to answer core questions that challenge what are IMO poor assumptions, and your refusal to provide satisfactory answers has crippled the credibility of your cause.

Given that you've been around the process for a while, you know that ALAC is a global body and its advice to ICANN is not country- (let alone city-)specific. Why, then, have you made no effort to engage in joint activity with other communities where city-TLDs exist, in order to facilitate creation of policy adaptable to a worldwide community?
If the effort has been made but no similar issues have been found at other cities with their own TLDs, that begs a different question: what's so special about the problems with .nyc, that makes it sufficiently worthy to demand attention from other regions and the global ALAC? In both theory and practice, ALAC advice to the Board is neither domain specific nor region specific.
After years of asking, I have yet to hear a satisfactory answer to the question "what is the end-user community interest, specifically, in the .nyc domain, that could not be served through a second-level domain?"

If there 's no disagreement, how do we move ahead to assure that ALAC responsibilities, as spelled out in Article XI of ICANN's By-Laws, are appropriately adhered to in the future?

Consider disagreement had.

Tom, you've also been here long enough to know that ALAC volunteers are stretched beyond belief in just taking care of real fires. Since you appear to know the bylaws and ALAC's role so well, why don't you propose something rather than merely expect others to fight your battles for you?

In any case.... until you can demonstrate that (a) this is a globally relevant problem and (b) it indeed harms end users and (c) creative solutions have been tried and failed .... this is not yet NARALO's (let alone ALAC's) battle.

Apologies to readers for what may have come across as overly harsh. But I'm honestly tired of this issue repeatedly advancing and receding, each time draining critical human energy better directed elsewhere.

Evan Leibovitch

Geneva, CH

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