Re: [NA-Discuss] Potential Meeting in Vancouver

Luc Faubert wrote:
> Nick,
>
> If I understand well, you're telling us that Wendy Seltzer, John Levine and Alan Greenberg, the North American ALAC reps have decided that a NARALO formation meeting is not a good idea?

Correct.

Less important than our individual opinions, we've listened to the ALSs
from the United States and Canada, and heard that none of the U.S.-based
organizations who participated in discussion feels that an in-person
meeting would be productive. Thus, I think the meeting even as proposed
sounds more like a Canadian groups' gathering than a multi-national RALO
formation meeting. That's worthwhile, and even worth ICANN's
sponsorship, but it's not a RALO-formation meeting.

The U.S. organizations participating in the discussion, on the lists and
on the teleconference, stated their opinions that the work of RALO
formation should done mostly online, given that the organization will
have to do most of its work online. Given that, that none of them was
able to or willing to attend the meeting even with the offer of ICANN
funding, and that a RALO, to be formed, will have to have support from
both countries, it didn't seem RALO-formation was the right name for
this gathering, and since that's how it was submitted, we recommended
against funding as such.

By contrast, many more ALSs see it as worth their while to come to an
ICANN meeting, where they'll meet not only other ALSs from their region,
but the players in ICANN's larger circle. Whether they'll be ready for
RALO-formation by then or not, that seems like a better reason to
support long-distance travel.

--Wendy

> Given that their mandate includes -- at least for Wendy and John who have the NA interim seats -- "assist[ing] in the formation and qualification of At-Large Structures and Regional At-Large Organizations (RALOs)" (see "Responsibilities of the Interim ALAC" at http://www.icann.org/committees/alac/ <http://www.icann.org/committees/alac/> ), I guess I'm missing something here.
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> I would appreciate explanations from our 3 ALAC reps, as I don't recall them stating their views on this list. I'm sorry if I'm mistaken,
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>       From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Nick Ashton-Hart
>       Sent: 2 février 2007 13:53
>       To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>       Subject: [NA-Discuss] Potential Meeting in Vancouver
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>       Dear All:
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>       As many of you know, a proposal was submitted to hold a meeting of ALSes in North America concurrently with the Vancouver PCNA summit later this month, at which ALSes and candidates for ALS accreditiation would meet and discuss issues surrounding forming a North American RALO as well as doing outreach at the PCNA itself.
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>       Where a region has not yet created a RALO and requests for funding of At-Large activities come in to ICANN, ICANN relies upon advice from the three regional representatives on the At-Large Advisory Committee and declines to fund meetings or events where the regional reps do not unanimously agree that it should be funded.
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>       In this case, the North American ALAC reps did not recommend that ICANN provide funding for this meeting, for reasons which they have previously stated on the list (rather than potentially putting words in their mouths I will leave it to them to state their reasons if they wish / are asked. They did state that if the meeting were to be primarily an outreach event for the Canadian community they had no objection.
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>       What I would like to suggest is that we could do the following:
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>       1) Have a meeting space at the larger meeting, which if there's a cost ICANN could fund, to allow those of the ALS / candidate ALS community to meet in-person. Those present could also invite others at the PCNA who are interested in ICANN and At-Large to attend.
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>       2) Connect via videoconference over the internet to that meeting for those unable to attend in person, but who wish to attend. We have access to an excellent Java-based tool which we are trying out at a meeting in Asia a few days later which could be used for this meeting too.
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>       3) Use the meeting as an opportunity for those who are present, or who join the meeting remotely, to discuss RALO formation issues, but also more general outreach for those who are attending the larger PCNA meeting.
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>       Perhaps this might prove to be a compromise that would work?
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>       --
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