I wasn’t physically in Sao Paulo, but I do know the LACRALO
discussed ISOC PR joining us long before and there was no objection raised at
that time from the membership. However, as PR is officially (according to the
ICANN regions) in NA, that might have been the legal objection to them participating
in signing the LAC MoU.
So ISOC PR is according to the ICANN regional distribution, officially
part of the NARALO, with all rights and privileges thereof. Unless ICANN moves
PR out of NA and into LAC – which isn’t happening anytime soon.
Translations will be covered. As Nick said, most everything already
has to be translated into Spanish for LAC, and the few NA-specific documents
won’t be that much extra.
Jacqueline
From: Thompson, Darlene
[mailto:DThompson@GOV.NU.CA]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Nick Ashton-Hart; NA Discuss
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Language
They were told that “Because of this we could not vote or
officially participate in the final ceremony“. WHAT?!?! Where the
heck did something THAT bizarre idea come from??? They are either part of
the NARALO with full privileges like anybody else or not.
Personally, I think that they should get to choose which RALO they
would like to be with although I do understand the thinking of having them as
part of NA since they are part of the US. If they stick with us then
Spanish would have to be included as one of our official languages.
Nick: Is there an adequate budget for translations into both
French and Spanish?
D
Darlene A. Thompson
Community Access Program Administrator
Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP
c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910
Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0
Phone: (867) 975-6531
Fax: (867) 979-8870
dthompson@gov.nu.ca
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Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 4:17 AM
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Subject: [NA-Discuss] Fwd: Language
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Date: 6 June 2007
03:57:23 BDT
To: <jam@jacquelinemorris.com>,
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Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss]
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ISOC Puerto Rico was invited to Sao Paulo last year to
participate and help
during the creation of the LACRALO, which we did. However,
at the time of
the final vote to accept the OPs and MOU we were told that
ISOC PR had been
approved as an ALS but under NARALO (?). Because of this we
could not vote
or officially participate in the final ceremony. We were
told that the
decision was made based on the political relationship with
the US. Who
knows!?
Nevertheless, we can work with either RALO. The important
thing is that we
participate.
In Puerto Rico we have two official languages - Spanish and
English. Since
the motion is to go with official languages in the ALS, then
Spanish should
be included. If this is too much of a slippery slope to
handle then send us
to the LACRALO and there will be no language issues.
Eduardo Diaz
President
ISOC Puerto Rico
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On Behalf Of Jacqueline
A. Morris
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 8:19 PM
To: 'Evan Leibovitch'
Cc: ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com;
'NA Discuss'
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
Actually, they did ask if they could be LACRALO members -
LACRALO determined
it had no issue accepting them if they wanted to be - but
that was last year
before there was movement on forming the NARALO.
But with regard to languages - if the agreement was for the
official
languages of the members of the regions, then, as PR is a
member of the
region, Spanish should be included. No matter how many or
how few people
speak it.
ICANN did have a consultation going on the regional
classification a while
ago -I can check back to see what came of it - I don't
recall seeing a
report or anything yet.
Jacqueline
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From: Evan Leibovitch [mailto:evan@telly.org]
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:50 PM
Cc: 'Robert Guerra'; ediaz@dconsultinggroup.com; 'NA
Discuss'
Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Language
Jacqueline A. Morris wrote:
Well - from what I remember - feel free to correct - Puerto Rico is
officially bilingual, isn't it? And it is part of NARALO. I
leave it up to
the Puerto Rican NARALO member to decide whether to take
this forward or
not. I believe that after the meeting in SJ, there will be
more ALS
applicants from PR, so maybe then they can call for Spanish
if they want to.
Well, then you open the issue of why there should be a RALO
with only
three participating jurisdictions.
Funny, elswehere in the world the RALO boundaries are drawn
on
continental boundaries. Newcomers can only wonder about the
politics
behind the decision to keep the Caribbean and Mexico out of
North
America on ICANN's globe.
Of course, one other option is to ask the Puerto Rican ALSs
if they'd
prefer to be part of the LAC-RALO
- Evan
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