Hi Nick, no I have explicitly not mixed up descriptors, at least
in my own mind, though perhaps I could have expressed myself more
clearly. My exact point is that there is the ALAC committee itself,
then there is ICANN's "At Large" staff and infrastructure,
which is inclusive of ALAC but also includes services to RALOs, ALS's,
and the Rest of Us. As evidence I point to the fact that your own
title is the Director of At-Large, not ALAC.
http://www.icann.org/biog/ashton-hart.htm and the regional liaisons
work for ICANN's At-Large group, not ALAC. ALAC never even met them
until after they were hired!
But there is some confusion in the ICANN budget. Have a look.
http://www.icann.org/announcements/proposed-budget-2006-07-clean-24jun06.pdf
Unless I am missing something-- I note that "ALAC" is
mentioned as follows:
4B Improve and
deepen participation in the ICANN process - End Users (ALAC)
ALAC FTE 1.50 $690 ,000
"ALAC" is given 1.5 FTE (full time equivalent)
employees of its own, according to this budget.
It seems ICANN's "At-Large" staff and infrastructure
itself is not mentioned, but perhaps I missed it.
Is there a confusion of descriptors in ICANN's own budget?
That is perhaps one reason why there has been quite a bit of
internal confusion in ALAC over whether or not ALAC can actually
direct ICANN to expend any of "its" funds, as long as the
ICANN financial procedures are followed. The approval of the
expenditure of any of ALAC's funds does not lie with ALAC, but with
yourself, Denise Michell (Vice President for Policy Development), and
those higher up. My point remains: It is a mistake to say that ALAC
has administrative control over its own budget.
best wishes
JP
Ex ALAC North America from Nomcom
At 12:33 PM +0100 5/5/07, Nick Ashton-Hart recently said:
Jean, I think you've mixed up descriptors
here and the result is
likely to give people an incorrect understanding as a consequence.
At-Large = the COMMUNITY as a whole, including ALAC
ALAC = At-Large Advisory Committee.
ICANN staff = ICANN staff
At-Large and ALAC are not interchangeable. At-Large and ICANN
Staff
are not interchangeable, either.
At-Large - the community and ALAC the committee have funding via a
budget line in the ICANN budget.
On 05/05/07, Jean Armour Polly <mom@netmom.com> wrote:
At 12:50 PM -0700 5/4/07, Danny Younger recently said:
Peter Dengate-Thrush offered congratulations on the
development of the program but asked why the
fellowships appeared limited only to ICANN supporting
organizations or committees. Theresa explained that
while any resident citizen of a qualifying country
could apply, the target audience for the program will
be government representatives that wish to participate
in the Governmental Advisory Committee, the ccTLD
community and the non-profit sector not associated
with the At-Large Advisory Committee. The At-Large
Advisory Committee already administers its own funding
for these purposes.
This is not strictly true. There is a difference between At Large and
the At
Large Advisory Committee. The former has direct ICANN funding, the
latter
does not. At Large has funding that it administers but it is incorrect
to
say that the At Large Advisory Committee administers any funds at all.
ALAC
can propose expenditures of funds from At-Large, which it sometimes
gets,
and sometimes does not get. The point is that ALAC cannot just
direct
At-Large to go out and pay for travel for ICANN constituents,
services,
research, or anything else. There's a proposal process that has to
move up
through channels.
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