Results of the Voting for ALAC Nominating Committee 2008 Appointments
Dear Members: I have the honour to provide below the results of the above- referenced vote. With 13 or 14 out of 15 potential votes cast (depending upon the regional selection in question), I can certify this as a quorate result. The results may be verified by the following URL saved on the system which hosts the At-Large Community's elections: http:// www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=LQd3RxzYmVRLkU6DT5DM Members will recall that there was no vote necessary for the African Seat, as only one candidate, Khaled Koubaa of Tunisia, was proposed for that region. Poll Results Poll menu: At-Large Nominating Committee Appointments 2008 Report date: Thu 27 Sep 2007 13:54 UTC Asia/Australasia/Pacific Region Seat Number of voters: 13 Quota: 6.500 Winners ranked by order of victory Showing accumulated votes in each round after distribution of preferences and 1st, 2nd, 3rd preference votes etc Rank Winners and losers Candidate Rnd1 Rnd2 Pref1 % Pref2 % 1 won in round 1 Taiuru, Karaitiana (New Zealand) 7.000 7 53.85 6 46.15 2 lost in round 1 Agarwal, Nirmol (India) 6.000 6 46.15 7 53.85 European Region Seat Number of voters: 14 Quota: 7.000 Winners ranked by order of victory Showing accumulated votes in each round after distribution of preferences and 1st, 2nd, 3rd preference votes etc Rank Winners and losers Candidate Rnd1 Rnd2 Pref1 % Pref2 % 1 won in round 1 Miloshevic, Desiree 11.000 11 78.57 3 21.43 2 lost in round 1 Vande Walle, Patrick 3.000 3 21.43 11 78.57 Latin America and the Caribbean Islands Seat Number of voters: 14 Quota: 7.000 Winners ranked by order of victory Showing accumulated votes in each round after distribution of preferences and 1st, 2nd, 3rd preference votes etc Rank Winners and losers Candidate Rnd1 Rnd2 Rnd3 Pref1 % Pref2 % Pref3 % 1 won in round 1 Gigena, Matias Altamira 7.000 7 50.00 2 14.29 5 35.71 2 lost in round 1 Ricciardi, Sebastian 5.000 5 35.71 7 50.00 2 14.29 3 lost in round 1 Ahon, Erick Iriarte 2.000 2 14.29 5 35.71 7 50.00 North American Seat Number of voters: 14 Quota: 7.000 Winners ranked by order of victory Showing accumulated votes in each round after distribution of preferences and 1st, 2nd, 3rd preference votes etc Rank Winners and losers Candidate Rnd1 Rnd2 Pref1 % Pref2 % 1 won in round 1 Rader, Ross 10.000 10 71.43 4 28.57 2 lost in round 1 Leibovitch, Evan 4.000 4 28.57 10 71.43 -- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 595 85 44 mobile: +41 (79) 595 54 68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
Dear Members, The North American community is entitled to an explanation of the voting results for our region that saw a supplier-side registrar representative elected whose name was never once introduced for candidacy on the NARALO discussion list. The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state: "It was decided that the RALOs would provide their advice and recommendations by the end of this week (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote online using instant runoff for the candidates of each region wherever there is more than one candidate proposed from a region." The North American region advanced three names: Eric Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last report was "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch (confirmed). The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names: Hugh Dierker [USA] current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly Proposed by Danny Younger Confirmed Evan Leibovich [Canada] ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada) Proposed by Beau & Robert Confirmed https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?na_nominating_committee_candidates_200... You will note that Ross Rader's name is not mentioned therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without member ALSs and North American individual participants in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy. Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's name was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the fact that his bio/credentials were submitted for review. I find: (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously disturbing, (2) the voting process that saw candidates having their names not included as perverse in the extreme, (3) the result (the election of registry and registrar representatives instead of user representatives) as a vile and deplorable abuse of trust I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an explanation. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Hi all, I have just researched Danny's comments below and can confirm what he is saying. I have just listened to the transcript of our telephone conference of Sept. 10 and there was no mention of Ross Rader, just Evan, Eric (is it Eric or Hugh?) and Michael (as per Danny's list). There has been absolutely no on-list activity mentioning Ross whatsoever. I, personally, have no problem with having Ross in this position. On the other hand I, too, have serious reservations about the opacity of the process. We had three names put forward, two of which were confirmed. I would definitely like to know how this happened with complete disregard for input from the NARALO. If processes are put in place, they should be followed or else what is the point of us putting our time and effort into this at all? Darlene Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Danny Younger Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 2:24 PM To: NA Discuss; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting for ALAC NominatingCommittee 2008 Appointments Dear Members, The North American community is entitled to an explanation of the voting results for our region that saw a supplier-side registrar representative elected whose name was never once introduced for candidacy on the NARALO discussion list. The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state: "It was decided that the RALOs would provide their advice and recommendations by the end of this week (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote online using instant runoff for the candidates of each region wherever there is more than one candidate proposed from a region." The North American region advanced three names: Eric Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last report was "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch (confirmed). The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names: Hugh Dierker [USA] current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly Proposed by Danny Younger Confirmed Evan Leibovich [Canada] ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada) Proposed by Beau & Robert Confirmed https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?na_nominating_committee_candidates _2007 You will note that Ross Rader's name is not mentioned therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without member ALSs and North American individual participants in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy. Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's name was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the fact that his bio/credentials were submitted for review. I find: (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously disturbing, (2) the voting process that saw candidates having their names not included as perverse in the extreme, (3) the result (the election of registry and registrar representatives instead of user representatives) as a vile and deplorable abuse of trust I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an explanation. ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists .icann.org Visit the NA-RALO Wiki at https://st.icann.org/naralo/ ------
Perhaps Robert, Beau or Alan can provide some insight into how the election was handled. -- Bret -- Bret Fausett (skype me at "lextext") smime.p7s is a digital signature http://www.imc.org/smime-pgpmime.html -------------------------------------
Hello all, Please note that Louis Houle has replaced me as President of ISOC Québec and that he will be our representative in NARALO. After 10 years of volunteer work in Internet affairs, I have decided to spend more time on the golf courses. It was great to work with all of you. Best of luck to all, _________________________________________ Luc Faubert Conseiller en gouvernance TI et en gestion du changement / IT governance and change management consulting +1 514 236 5129 www.LucFaubert.com
While it is properly for the members of the ALAC, and in particular those from North America, to comment on the candidates put forward for voting by the committee and anything related to their choices based upon that list, I should comment on the process. The Bylaws of ICANN, as has widely been stated earlier in the on-list discussions of selection of the 5 NomCom voting members which the ALAC appoints each year, provide in Article IX, S2(4)(e): e. The ALAC shall annually appoint one non-voting liaison to the ICANN Board of Directors, without limitation on re-appointment, and shall, after consultation with each RALO, annually appoint five voting delegates (no two of whom shall be citizens of countries in the same Geographic Region, as defined according to Section 5 of Article VI) to the Nominating Committee. In this instance, as has been noted, the ALAC did consult with the RALO. The members of the ALAC for North America included candidates from that region on the page at: https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi? 2008_alac_nominating_committee and on that page also provided commentary on the selection criteria which they used to reach the names listed on that page. The ALAC voted on the candidates on the same page, and the results were as indicated. If the RALOs, or individual ALSes, believe that the Bylaws should be changed in some manner which would affect future NomCom appointments, it would be for them to suggest that. Perhaps the NARALO Secretariat and Chair will wish to bring this topic up during the meetings of the Secretariat in LA On 27 Sep 2007, at 20:23, Danny Younger wrote:
Dear Members,
The North American community is entitled to an explanation of the voting results for our region that saw a supplier-side registrar representative elected whose name was never once introduced for candidacy on the NARALO discussion list.
The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state: "It was decided that the RALOs would provide their advice and recommendations by the end of this week (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote online using instant runoff for the candidates of each region wherever there is more than one candidate proposed from a region."
The North American region advanced three names: Eric Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last report was "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch (confirmed).
The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names:
Hugh Dierker [USA] current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly Proposed by Danny Younger Confirmed
Evan Leibovich [Canada] ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada) Proposed by Beau & Robert Confirmed
https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi? na_nominating_committee_candidates_2007
You will note that Ross Rader's name is not mentioned therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without member ALSs and North American individual participants in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy.
Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's name was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the fact that his bio/credentials were submitted for review.
I find: (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously disturbing, (2) the voting process that saw candidates having their names not included as perverse in the extreme, (3) the result (the election of registry and registrar representatives instead of user representatives) as a vile and deplorable abuse of trust
I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an explanation.
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-- Regards, Nick Ashton-Hart Director, At-Large ICANN Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88 USA Tel: +1 (202) 657-5460 Fax: +41 (22) 595 85 44 mobile: +41 (79) 595 54 68 email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype: nashtonhart Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
The ALAC voted on the candidates on the same page, and the results were as indicated. If the RALOs, or individual ALSes, believe that the Bylaws should be changed in some manner which would affect future NomCom appointments, it would be for them to suggest that.
The bylaws only say that the ALAC annually shall "appoint" five delegates to the NomComm. They do not say that the ALAC is required to "vote" to make the appointments, so I think it would be a misreading to say that the bylaws dictated the process that the ALAC followed. As I mentioned on the list prior to the selection, in past years the ALAC representatives from each region gathered to make their selection, and then the other regions simply ratified those regional choices. Under the "voting" process that was followed this year, however, it is theoretically possible that a person could be elected from a region without having any support from the ALAC representatives of that region. In an extreme example, North America, South American and Europe, voting as a block, could dictate the representatives for Africa and Asia. That result is made possible by the procedure followed here, but it was not dictated by the bylaws. To better understand what happened this year, I would like to know (a) why the ALAC chose to depart from its past practices and use this voting procedure and (b) whether the candidates selected, in each region, are the candidates who were supported by the ALAC representatives from that region. Bret
I'm sending this while on vacation at the request of colleagues on the ALAC. I proposed Evan as a candidate. We also talked to other people, one of whom posts constantly on these boards, and we were turned down by several people. My last words to Robert and Alan before I left on vacation were that I did not support Ross, who I'm sure is a fine individual, but is from a registrar. My feeling was that there were more than enough voices from that constituency. I didn't talk to anyone on ICANN staff. Beau Brendler ________________________________ From: alac-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of Danny Younger Sent: Thu 9/27/2007 2:23 PM To: NA Discuss; At-Large Worldwide Subject: Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Results of the Voting for ALACNominating Committee 2008 Appointments Dear Members, The North American community is entitled to an explanation of the voting results for our region that saw a supplier-side registrar representative elected whose name was never once introduced for candidacy on the NARALO discussion list. The minutes of the last ALAC meeting state: "It was decided that the RALOs would provide their advice and recommendations by the end of this week (NLT 16st September). There would then be a vote online using instant runoff for the candidates of each region wherever there is more than one candidate proposed from a region." The North American region advanced three names: Eric Dierker (confirmed), Michael Geist (at last report was "pending confirmation", and Evan Leibovitch (confirmed). The current NARALO Wiki contains only two names: Hugh Dierker [USA] current chair of the GNSO's General Assembly Proposed by Danny Younger Confirmed Evan Leibovich [Canada] ALS Representative, CLUE (Canada) Proposed by Beau & Robert Confirmed https://st.icann.org/naralo/index.cgi?na_nominating_committee_candidates_200... You will note that Ross Rader's name is not mentioned therein, yet suddenly he has been elected without member ALSs and North American individual participants in the RALO even being aware of his candidacy. Further, voting results show that Eric Dierker's name was never even voted upon, notwithstanding the fact that his bio/credentials were submitted for review. I find: (1) the opaqueness of this process outrageously disturbing, (2) the voting process that saw candidates having their names not included as perverse in the extreme, (3) the result (the election of registry and registrar representatives instead of user representatives) as a vile and deplorable abuse of trust I, and likely the Ombudsman as well, await an explanation. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ ALAC mailing list ALAC@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac_atlarge-lists.icann.org At-Large Official Site: http://www.alac.icann.org ALAC Independent: http://www.icannalac.org *** Scanned
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