Re: [NA-Discuss] Draft NARALO Operating Procedures
At 06/08/2013 08:31 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
Nice job, Alan!
I would also offer the following:
#4 Only mentions English and French - Spanish should also be included.
I also note that what is there is not actually correct, in that with very few exceptions, we have not translated anything (the Operating Principles) were among the very few I could find). I'm not saying that is good, but that is the reality. I would suggest that this section is not causing us any IMMEDIATE OPERATIONAL problems, and that when we do a re-write, we replace it with something that is both realistic and accurate, and adheres to the current ALAC/ICANN rules and policies. As such it will require more discussion than we want now to get these "fixes" in place.
#12 refers to ALAC members being chosen by a rough consensus process. This has never been done. It has always been done by a voting process. The rough consensus wording should rather be used for routine decisions.
I am happy to make such a change if there is such a will.
#16. If an ALS loses its voting status, how can it regain it through voting?
This is something that we should fix, as cleaning up of ALAS status should be a high-priority issue. Can you offer a quick fix? One that comes to mind is that at the one year point they are notified and have one year to fix or we mark inactive and recommends decertification. Alan
Thanks!
D
Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 975-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Alan Greenberg [alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:10 PM To: NA-Discuss Subject: [NA-Discuss] Draft NARALO Operating Procedures
I offer the following draft of the reviser NARALO Operating Procedures
In summary, I have changed: - a number of things we noted before as problems but never fixed - the tie-breaking which triggered this revision - other important things I found along the way.
All of our documents are BADLY in need of revision. This is NOT that effort, but I have tried to fix the really serious issues and particularly ones that have caused us problems in the past.
In detail by section number:
7. Adding the possibility for a shared Secretariat, which already implied in section 8 by the "person(s)". As far as I can find, we have no "language requirements", so I deleted the reference to it.
9. That is primarily where the ALAC Member responsibilities now reside (or pointed to by RoP).
11. Removal of the term "Statement of Interest" which now has another meaning. Nominations is what this process is referred to in ALAC docs, and in fact, that is what actually happens except in the rare self-nomination case.
12. Goes with above.
15. Currently, only a rep of a true ALS can vote to alter the Operating Procedures. The representative of unaffiliated members was accidentally omitted. This fixes that.
16. Since we say that selections should largely be by consensus, this fits better than just counting votes which might not happen.
17. Again removing a mis-used "Statement of Interest" and making the process clear. I also made it clear how you lose unaffiliated membership. I removed what is essentially an implementation issue that did not belong in the rules and added a tie-breaking rule patterned on that in 13.
19. The new rule for tie-breaking in a Chair or Secretariat election.
20. To counteract section 12.9 of the Procedure for Meetings which says we vote like LAC, with weighted voting balancing countries.
21. Fix the many discrepancies among documents.
Comments?
Alan
On 6 August 2013 10:15, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
At 06/08/2013 08:31 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
#12 refers to ALAC members being chosen by a rough consensus process.
This has never been done. It has always been done by a voting process. The rough consensus wording should rather be used for routine decisions.
I am happy to make such a change if there is such a will.
I wouldn't say never. NARALO's first two non-ALAC reps -- Robert and Beau - were chosen by consensus, no vote was ever taken. I believe that Gareth's selection as well as my first, were also done that way. I would prefer to keep the option so to allow for the flexibility. - Evan
On 8 August 2013 04:34, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
NARALO's first two non-ALAC reps -- Robert and Beau - were chosen by consensus, no vote was ever taken.
Argh. I meant to say, NARALO's first non-Nomcom-appointed ALAC reps
+1 Louis Houle Président La Société Internet du Québec (ISOC Québec) Louis.Houle@isocquebec.org Le 2013-08-08 04:34, Evan Leibovitch a écrit :
On 6 August 2013 10:15, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
At 06/08/2013 08:31 AM, Thompson, Darlene wrote:
#12 refers to ALAC members being chosen by a rough consensus process.
This has never been done. It has always been done by a voting process. The rough consensus wording should rather be used for routine decisions.
I am happy to make such a change if there is such a will.
I wouldn't say never.
NARALO's first two non-ALAC reps -- Robert and Beau - were chosen by consensus, no vote was ever taken. I believe that Gareth's selection as well as my first, were also done that way.
I would prefer to keep the option so to allow for the flexibility.
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