-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [At-Large] Moderation of Jeff Williams - ICANN - Jefsey Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:44:08 -0700 From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> Organization: IDNS and Spokesman for INEGroup To: at-large@atlarge-lists.icann.org CC: Bill Silverstein <icann-list@sorehands.com>,GAC Rep <ssene@ntia.doc.gov>,DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep <aheineman@ntia.doc.gov>,Dominik Filipp <dominik.filipp@dsoft.sk> References: <C4C0E5D7.9DA1%staff@atlarge.icann.org><3F3E15DA767FE34598D8776192CA23A6046D510D@CUEXVS2.consumer.org><200808090636.m796a7FO005423@ns1.irnic.ir><13e529281e5b1cdd6f27dccf03ea090c.squirrel@mail.sorehands.com> <200808091024.1krPmY1Za3Nl36H2@mx-laughing.atl.sa.earthlink.net> JFC and all, ROFLMAO! How incessantly paranoid! You seed far too much credit to me, and far too less to reality. Besides I am only a messenger. So why shoot the messenger. What is important is the message(s). And indeed there is little or no difference between what is relevant to the Internet, especially DNS, and what is relevant to ICANN. Such was certainly not my idea, but ICANN's circa 1999. JFC Morfin wrote:

At 08:49 09/08/2008, Bill Silverstein wrote:

...

Many of his recent comments have been relevant to the internet community, but not to the issues of ICANN.

Would you mean there would be a difference ?

jfc

PS. I had actually two reasons to question Beau :

- to understand if he was genuine when asking what non-American really think about ICANN the biaised way he did (most do not mind the USG, they mind the "stakholder"'s dominance). As several others, for 8 years, I try to understand who "Jeff Willians" really _are_, what is exactly their role and the wheight they carry in the Internet community, who pays and inform them, who support or use them. This is why I am always interested in the activists who are serious about Jeff Williams, resurecting them once they have been dealt with, and being unnecessarily rude (a way increase the attention).

- to help ALAC to get real. If their mechanic cannot cope with "Jeff Williams" there is a bug or a civilization issue : who is to be the reference - the mechanic or the person. This is very important : if ALAC choses to protect instead of improve the mechanic while the WSIS consensus (including the USA) said that the Information Society had to be "people centered, à charactère humain, centrada en la persona", then we definitly know on which side people are to be.

Let get real. If ALAC wants to be/stay as a stable community helper, it must able to survive scores of Jeff Williams, from 200 national ALAC communities in 250 languages. This means considering a similar approach to ISOC which consider an adequate relational tool. It must also consider an adequate structural architecture. The whole ICANN problem everyone can observe through the IIC issue is the one that the French GAC VP asked Peter Dungate Trush : - you say that ICANN's structure adequately survived the last 10 years and has just to be consolidated. - some do not think it was adequate. - how do you know that a centralized American English ASCII oriented structure would be adequate to a Multilingual distributed Internet.

If ALAC wants to really help ICANN, it must first to become "Jeff Williams Proof" in English, then in French, in Chinese, and in 250 national languages (ISO 3166) and then in 30.000 geolingual environments (ISO 639-6 - LS640).

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