Hi All As Judith has pointed out that John LaPrise has been an Unaffiliated Member of NARALO but he has formulated a valuable US based organization that serves as it`s mandate the protection of the end-internet users. This is a space that is ignored by ISOC and other groups and it has alot of potential to grow and prosper. We need to recognize that it`s in it`s infancy and overtime it can play a significant role in helping raise awareness in the US on Internet issues I support the application Glenn McKnight Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com

wrote:

All,

This is just a reminder that the deadline is approaching for regional advice and I have only heard from one ALS. Since this is an unusual situation where the main contact person for the ALS is already an active Individual member people should feel free to email me directly their opinions on whether to accept or reject this ALS. Currently there is no procedure for suspension of an application or for asking the applicant any questions directly, but all these are great ideas for the future as we are currently revising the ALS Criteria. Do please let me know what your thoughts are. You can write me or Glenn directly. Looking forward to hearing from you

Best, Judith

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HI All,

We are seeking Regional Advice for a new ALS, The Association of Internet Users has applied to be an ALS in NARALO. They are brand new organization and as such they have not done any events but seems to be a very promising organization and they seem to be committed to supporting the concerns of individual Internet users' and we think would make a good addition to NARALO. The organization is chaired for by John Laprise a NARALO member. The ALS criteria team is still working on creating new criteria for ALSes and also on what will be required so we are still using the old process. This application and the due diligence that was conducted were done under the old process and the old criteria.

I have attached this application to you for your review. I would appreciate it everyone could review this document and send me any comments or thoughts on this new ALS by August 19. When you write me, please state the ALS you are representing and if you support or oppose the addition of the Association of Internet Users to become an ALS in NARALO. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best, Judith Hellerstein NARALO Secretary

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I do not support the application at this moment. It seems to be chartered by only one person or maybe two. I recommend to wait in adopting this application until it can demonstrate to be more robust. -ed On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:22 PM Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All As Judith has pointed out that John LaPrise has been an Unaffiliated Member of NARALO but he has formulated a valuable US based organization that serves as it`s mandate the protection of the end-internet users. This is a space that is ignored by ISOC and other groups and it has alot of potential to grow and prosper. We need to recognize that it`s in it`s infancy and overtime it can play a significant role in helping raise awareness in the US on Internet issues

I support the application

Glenn McKnight

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On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein < judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:

...

All,

This is just a reminder that the deadline is approaching for regional advice and I have only heard from one ALS. Since this is an unusual situation where the main contact person for the ALS is already an active Individual member people should feel free to email me directly their opinions on whether to accept or reject this ALS. Currently there is no procedure for suspension of an application or for asking the applicant any questions directly, but all these are great ideas for the future as we are currently revising the ALS Criteria. Do please let me know what your thoughts are. You can write me or Glenn directly. Looking forward to hearing from you

Best, Judith

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HI All,

We are seeking Regional Advice for a new ALS, The Association of Internet Users has applied to be an ALS in NARALO. They are brand new organization and as such they have not done any events but seems to be a very promising organization and they seem to be committed to supporting the concerns of individual Internet users' and we think would make a good addition to NARALO. The organization is chaired for by John Laprise a NARALO member. The ALS criteria team is still working on creating new criteria for ALSes and also on what will be required so we are still using the old process. This application and the due diligence that was conducted were done under the old process and the old criteria.

I have attached this application to you for your review. I would appreciate it everyone could review this document and send me any comments or thoughts on this new ALS by August 19. When you write me, please state the ALS you are representing and if you support or oppose the addition of the Association of Internet Users to become an ALS in NARALO. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best, Judith Hellerstein NARALO Secretary

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Hi All, While I completely respect the and understand the opinions expressed against accepting the application, I know John personally and have been familiar with his work for some years. I'm certain that his organization will grow with in a short amount of time, and in fact make a positive and valuable contribution. Thus, from my vantage point a forward looking perspective would lean towards accepting the application. I admit to not being the most knowledgeable person in this discussion about the implications of this, so I will pose 2 questions: Can his individual membership be terminated if the organizational one is accepted? and what is the downside of allowing this? David Vyorst Co-Founder, Relay Station Digital Strategies www.relaystationmedia.com 202.841.2400 @dvyo On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Leah Symekher <leahs@isc.org> wrote:

I agree with Eduardo's point of view. I sent a statement earlier to Glenn and Judith sharing the same concern and withholding support for ALS status for now for this proposal.

Leah Symekher SFBay ISOC Chapter

On 8/17/16 2:14 PM, Eduardo Diaz wrote:

I do not support the application at this moment. It seems to be chartered by only one person or maybe two. I recommend to wait in adopting this application until it can demonstrate to be more robust.

-ed

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:22 PM Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Hi All As Judith has pointed out that John LaPrise has been an Unaffiliated Member of NARALO but he has formulated a valuable US based organization that serves as it`s mandate the protection of the end-internet users. This is a space that is ignored by ISOC and other groups and it has alot of potential to grow and prosper. We need to recognize that it`s in it`s infancy and overtime it can play a significant role in helping raise awareness in the US on Internet issues

I support the application

Glenn McKnight

Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .

On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein < judith@jhellerstein.com> wrote:

...

All,

This is just a reminder that the deadline is approaching for regional advice and I have only heard from one ALS. Since this is an unusual situation where the main contact person for the ALS is already an active Individual member people should feel free to email me directly their opinions on whether to accept or reject this ALS. Currently there is no procedure for suspension of an application or for asking the applicant any questions directly, but all these are great ideas for the future as we are currently revising the ALS Criteria. Do please let me know what your thoughts are. You can write me or Glenn directly. Looking forward to hearing from you

Best, Judith

_________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com Website: www.jhellerstein.com Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide

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HI All,

We are seeking Regional Advice for a new ALS, The Association of Internet Users has applied to be an ALS in NARALO. They are brand new organization and as such they have not done any events but seems to be a very promising organization and they seem to be committed to supporting the concerns of individual Internet users' and we think would make a good addition to NARALO. The organization is chaired for by John Laprise a NARALO member. The ALS criteria team is still working on creating new criteria for ALSes and also on what will be required so we are still using the old process. This application and the due diligence that was conducted were done under the old process and the old criteria.

I have attached this application to you for your review. I would appreciate it everyone could review this document and send me any comments or thoughts on this new ALS by August 19. When you write me, please state the ALS you are representing and if you support or oppose the addition of the Association of Internet Users to become an ALS in NARALO. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best, Judith Hellerstein NARALO Secretary

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There are very organizations that represent the end-user and stakeholder. I support the diversity of voices and support the application. Thanks, R Ritu Sharma Mobile: (414) 839-4190 Twitter <http://www.twitter.com/ritusharma1> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/sharmaritu> SDG Nexus: Accelerating Change through Adoption of Internet in the Global South Email: ritu@sdgnexus.org

On Aug 17, 2016, at 11:30 AM, John More <morej1@mac.com> wrote:

I support the application. Seems like a good addition.

John

...

On Aug 17, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith@jhellerstein.com>> wrote:

All,

This is just a reminder that the deadline is approaching for regional advice and I have only heard from one ALS. Since this is an unusual situation where the main contact person for the ALS is already an active Individual member people should feel free to email me directly their opinions on whether to accept or reject this ALS. Currently there is no procedure for suspension of an application or for asking the applicant any questions directly, but all these are great ideas for the future as we are currently revising the ALS Criteria. Do please let me know what your thoughts are. You can write me or Glenn directly. Looking forward to hearing from you

Best, Judith _________________________________________________________________________ Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO Hellerstein & Associates 3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008 Phone: (202) 362-5139 Skype ID: judithhellerstein E-mail: Judith@jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith@jhellerstein.com> Website: www.jhellerstein.com <http://www.jhellerstein.com/> Linked In: www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/ <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/> Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide

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HI All,

We are seeking Regional Advice for a new ALS, The Association of Internet Users has applied to be an ALS in NARALO. They are brand new organization and as such they have not done any events but seems to be a very promising organization and they seem to be committed to supporting the concerns of individual Internet users' and we think would make a good addition to NARALO. The organization is chaired for by John Laprise a NARALO member. The ALS criteria team is still working on creating new criteria for ALSes and also on what will be required so we are still using the old process. This application and the due diligence that was conducted were done under the old process and the old criteria.

I have attached this application to you for your review. I would appreciate it everyone could review this document and send me any comments or thoughts on this new ALS by August 19. When you write me, please state the ALS you are representing and if you support or oppose the addition of the Association of Internet Users to become an ALS in NARALO. I look forward to hearing from you.

Best, Judith Hellerstein NARALO Secretary

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I agree that the Applicant has set itself an ambitious target. I also agree with John's point, and so long as the paperwork meets the criteria I would err on the side of inclusion. On 18 August 2016 at 17:39, John R. Levine <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:

As far as I can tell, every previous attempt to form an association of Internet users has failed. This one will, too.

But if they're willing to do some of NARALO's work, they are at worst harmless, so you might as well let them in.

R's, John

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