In my opinion, both the proposals somewhat overlap each other. However, 3. group in Danny's proposal is given too much space and power yet partly duplicated in 2. group (Intellectual Property Attorneys) thus diminishing the overall noncom/users outreach in 4. group. I therefore tend to support the current joint statement too. In fact, the more I am looking at it the more I like it. Also the split in the joint statement sounds quite reasonable for the moment. Dominik Danny Younger wrote:

As I look around I see four distinct communities that have a stake in the process:

1. Community: Providers of Registration and Connectivity Services a. Registries b. Registrars c. Resellers, Hosting Companies/ISPs

2. Community: Business a. Big Business & their Intellectual Property Attorneys b. Small Business & domainers

3. Community: Law Enforcement & Security Interests

4. Community: Public Interest a. Consumer Groups b. Civil Society Advocates i. Privacy ii. Freedom of Speech, etc. c. Registrant Rights Advocates

Well, I guess then my ALS has no right to be represented; we fall into none of the above cubbyholes. Neither do most current ALSs. I can't agree at all with the above split. The entire spectrum of "public interest" -- representing the 99.99% of the world that uses the Internet -- gets one-quarter of the total voice. (And I continue to be reminded that NCUC, that shares part of that one-quarter, _defended_ the AGP!) To accept the above grouping is to accept Danny's assertion that the current At-Large process -- that tries to give a voice to public interests that would not otherwise be actively involved -- be totally discarded. I believe he was dead wrong when he first stated that view, and I'm not prepared to go along with it now because GNSO is being reconstituted. I'm not yet ready to give up on ICANN At-Large. Under the above arrangement, the general public is screwed. I can't support it. "Civil society", especially as currently constituted within ICANN, cannot be trusted to advance what I consider to be the public interest. Given a choice, I prefer the current joint statement with the ALAC sidebar. - Evan