Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal
indeed, vertical integration may be off the table at this point. but we have heard several examples already of warehousing -- something Danny and I tried to bring to the attention of ICANN at least two years ago. there may be a separate PDP process for warehousing -----Original Message-----
From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> Sent: Dec 9, 2010 7:02 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal
Danny,
It is early in the morning, pre-coffee, but I know you appreciate prompt feedback, so I'm just looking at the topics, item 2, bullet items of the final paragraph.
The list offered of topics the proposed workshop will consider is somewhat backwards looking, that is, some of the topics of consideration have been the subjects of past policy making efforts:
o gaming by registrars o vertical integration o domain tasting o speculation and warehousing o front-running
I'd like to cover new ground before the actual transition to delegation period is experienced for the cohort of new applications that will affect North American users of the DNS and the North American public interest.
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Hi Danny, This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to keep this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is limited in scope to North America. As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to address deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO. - Evan On 9 December 2010 07:50, Beau Brendler <beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote:
indeed, vertical integration may be off the table at this point. but we have heard several examples already of warehousing -- something Danny and I tried to bring to the attention of ICANN at least two years ago.
there may be a separate PDP process for warehousing
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From: Eric Brunner-Williams <ebw@abenaki.wabanaki.net> Sent: Dec 9, 2010 7:02 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal
Danny,
It is early in the morning, pre-coffee, but I know you appreciate prompt feedback, so I'm just looking at the topics, item 2, bullet items of the final paragraph.
The list offered of topics the proposed workshop will consider is somewhat backwards looking, that is, some of the topics of consideration have been the subjects of past policy making efforts:
o gaming by registrars o vertical integration o domain tasting o speculation and warehousing o front-running
I'd like to cover new ground before the actual transition to delegation period is experienced for the cohort of new applications that will affect North American users of the DNS and the North American public interest.
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On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 06:10, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hi Danny,
This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to keep this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is limited in scope to North America.
While the scope of the issues are not local to North America, their effects may be best understood from a regional viewpoint. Also, globally scoped workshops can make travel, coordination and cost much more onerous. I support the idea of this being a NARALO workshop and believe that having a regional focus will be beneficial. ~Chris
As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to address deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO.
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NYC? joly On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann@coisoc.org>wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 06:10, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hi Danny,
This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to keep this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is limited in scope to North America.
While the scope of the issues are not local to North America, their effects may be best understood from a regional viewpoint. Also, globally scoped workshops can make travel, coordination and cost much more onerous. I support the idea of this being a NARALO workshop and believe that having a regional focus will be beneficial.
~Chris
As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to address deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO.
- Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
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Danny, Have you thought of piggy-backing this on the San Francisco meeting when everybody will be there, anyways? More cost effective and more likely to be funded/accepted, IMHO. Just a thought. D Darlene A. Thompson CAP Administrator N-CAP/Department of Education P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-5631 Fax: (867) 979-5610 dthompson@gov.nu.ca ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] on behalf of Joly MacFie [joly@punkcast.com] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 9:46 PM To: chris@coisoc.org Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Funded Workshop Proposal NYC? joly On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Chris Grundemann <cgrundemann@coisoc.org>wrote:
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 06:10, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org> wrote:
Hi Danny,
This is all extremely useful. However I don't think it's appropriate to keep this within the region. For us to be effective in moving this worward as advice (to both polcy and implementation) it needs to be brought to the wider, global forum of At-Large. There is nothing in the propoal that is limited in scope to North America.
While the scope of the issues are not local to North America, their effects may be best understood from a regional viewpoint. Also, globally scoped workshops can make travel, coordination and cost much more onerous. I support the idea of this being a NARALO workshop and believe that having a regional focus will be beneficial.
~Chris
As I hope you are aware, ALAC has already take taken an official (and unanimously endorsed) position that the current Applicant Guidebook is unacceptable and against the public good. As such, an opportunity to address deficiencies is both welcome an appropriate IMO.
- Evan ------ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org https://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss
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Beau Brendler -
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Thompson, Darlene