no problem, I just didn't really understand the wording ... and if the goal is to better administer the process now, great, that's what I voted for. We should just help whoever takes up the position in the future to try to develop a mechanism for communicating with the unaffiliated people. I know that Matthias and Darlene and others were working on that, and I was supposed to help but didn't, so, onward to better representation for us unaffiiliateds... -----Original Message----- From: Evan Leibovitch Sent: Oct 11, 2010 11:10 PM To: Beau Brendler Cc: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] WTF? On 11 October 2010 19:38, Beau Brendler <[1]beaubrendler@earthlink.net> wrote: This has probably been explained before, but: Please note that Beau Brendler participated in the vote on behalf of the unaffiliated members. While his vote is visible on the above URL, it is not counted towards quorum as according to rule 15, an affirmative vote of not less than 70% of active North American At-Large Structures is required to amend the NARALO Operating Principles. What does that mean? Let's not pretend to give unaffiliated members a vote (in this particular case, a yes) if it's not going to be counted. Beau, I don't know why it was not counted and will check into it. If you participated in the vote then your vote counts and is part of the quorum. I apologize on behalf of the process that may have inadvertently missed your mention. Of course, as you and I both know, the purpose of this vote was to codify and formalize what had until been an informal and not-fully-recognised role of unaffiliated members and their representatives within NARALO and At-Large. - Evan References 1. mailto:beaubrendler@earthlink.net