Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult. - The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel. - Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely. - Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings. That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on: - Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting. Alan At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s from PR.
Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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or We could wait til the next year and hold the GA along with the NA ICANN meeting. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:10 PM To: Glenn McKnight; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult. - The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel. - Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely. - Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings. That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on: - Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting. Alan At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s from PR.
Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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I like the idea of focusing on NARALO issues. ICANN meetings seem just too busy for that. Tom Lowenhaupt On 1/26/2015 2:24 AM, Allan Skuce wrote:
or We could wait til the next year and hold the GA along with the NA ICANN meeting. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org <na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:10 PM To: Glenn McKnight; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult.
- The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel.
- Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely.
- Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings.
That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on:
- Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting.
Alan
At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s from PR. Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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Hi Folks Without out much debate on the merits of the location or timing . My question to the community. Do you agree that NARALO should have a GENERAL ASSEMBLY apart from ICANN meetings in the next fiscal period? Date and location to be determined Thanks Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight . On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml@communisphere.com> wrote:
I like the idea of focusing on NARALO issues. ICANN meetings seem just too busy for that.
Tom Lowenhaupt
On 1/26/2015 2:24 AM, Allan Skuce wrote:
or We could wait til the next year and hold the GA along with the NA ICANN meeting. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org < na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg < alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:10 PM To: Glenn McKnight; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult.
- The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel.
- Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely.
- Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings.
That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on:
- Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting.
Alan
At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s
from PR.
Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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On Jan 26, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Folks
Without out much debate on the merits of the location or timing . My question to the community.
Do you agree that NARALO should have a GENERAL ASSEMBLY apart from ICANN meetings in the next fiscal period? Date and location to be determined
Thanks
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml@communisphere.com> wrote:
I like the idea of focusing on NARALO issues. ICANN meetings seem just too busy for that.
Tom Lowenhaupt
On 1/26/2015 2:24 AM, Allan Skuce wrote:
or We could wait til the next year and hold the GA along with the NA ICANN meeting. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org < na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg < alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:10 PM To: Glenn McKnight; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult.
- The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel.
- Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely.
- Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings.
That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on:
- Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting.
Alan
At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s
from PR.
Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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Hello, Glenn: GTALUG agrees with the idea of such an assembly, subject to the assembly's goals and objectives. Gordon Chillcott Greater Toronto Area Linux User's Group ("GTALUG") On Mon, 2015-01-26 at 11:11 -0500, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
Without out much debate on the merits of the location or timing . My question to the community.
Do you agree that NARALO should have a GENERAL ASSEMBLY apart from ICANN meetings in the next fiscal period? Date and location to be determined
Thanks
Glenn McKnight mcknight.glenn@gmail.com skype gmcknight twitter gmcknight .
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 8:35 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <toml@communisphere.com> wrote:
I like the idea of focusing on NARALO issues. ICANN meetings seem just too busy for that.
Tom Lowenhaupt
On 1/26/2015 2:24 AM, Allan Skuce wrote:
or We could wait til the next year and hold the GA along with the NA ICANN meeting. ________________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org < na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Alan Greenberg < alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:10 PM To: Glenn McKnight; NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NARALO General Assembly
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult.
- The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel.
- Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely.
- Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings.
That being said, if NARALO does make this request, there will need to be clarity on:
- Will you bring the ALS reps in for just the GA, or the ARIN meeting as well? - If the latter, this will need the agreement of ARIN that they can accommodate the additional people. - If you are expecting funding from ARIN, that will need to be clarified as well. - You will need to clearly state what the intent of the GA is, and what are the expected outcomes. - In light of the close proximity to the Dublin meeting, it will make a difference whether you are proposing to have the GA before or after the ARIN meeting.
Alan
At 23/01/2015 12:54 PM, Glenn McKnight wrote:
Hi Folks
It's this time for the ALAC Finance and Budget submission and the deadline is February 4th, 2015
One of the ideas that has merit is a proposal to do a NARALO General Assembly. This assembly could be scheduled during the ARIN meetings in Montreal during early October. This will be the first NARALO General Assembly and also it's been 16 months since ATLAS 2. This meeting is an Inreach meeting to build capacity. The session would also be streamed to permit members who could not make the sessions
This request would be off season so it would be reasonable and North American travel to Montreal isn't that expense including the two ALS''s
from PR.
Please comment on this idea to warrant a submission
Thanks all
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On 26 January 2015 at 00:10, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:
Although I think that this is a great idea and has the potential for getting a lot of out NARALO members more informed and possibly involved with ARIN, there are considerations that may make it difficult.
- The ARIN meeting is on Thursday, October 8 and Friday, October 9. That is just a few days before the start of the pre-ICANN events for ICANN 54 in Dublin (and since this is an Annual General Meeting of ICANN, there tend to be more activities in the week preceding the formal meeting (October 17-23). It would be difficult to have support from At-Large Staff and Constituency Travel.
Personally I was thinking of having the GA on the 6th and 7th, before the ARIN meeting. Then perhaps we could get sponsorship for some of those wanting an extra night or two to stay for the ARIN meeting
- Two other regions have already indicated that they plan to request a General Assembly (EURALO and AFRALO), so a third one may be a bit of a hard sell in one budget year. Although potentially the NA GA could be funded in lieu of another region, the timing above makes that less likely.
That's what happens when there is no long-term planning for this kind of thing. And, based on past years, chances are high that ALL might get rejected.
- Glenn's note proposes to hold the GA "during" the ARIN meeting. Is that really what was meant? If the meetings overlap, doesn't that negate the benefit of holding the two meetings in the same location? I presumed that the intent was to hold the GA immediately before or after the ARIN meetings.
See above. Note that there is more than casual relevance for the timing and location. This is a milestone year, with the MoU being signed between NARALO and ARIN in Singapore. It would be a great opportunity for these two new partners to get to know each other, to give substance to the relationship. As well, a location in the fall in the northeast minimizes travel expenses for quite a few different reasons. Maybe we could even coax the Chair of ALAC to attend if the extra expense isn't too high. Of course, the best scenario is for NARALO and ARIN to discuss the suitability of this when many of our people meet in Singapore to determine feasibility. But the inflexibility of the program submission deadlines will not allow this, so we have to go with the information at hand. - Evan
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