Hi John, 1. I really think that keeping the derogatory language out of these e-mails is a necessity or else you will find that people are not going to be willing to post here for fear that they will come under the "snide fire" that I am seeing continuously. True or not, I don't want to hear it. If you have a legitimate gripe that you wish to have discussed, then post it properly. Frankly I'm tired of the childish behaviour. 2. You are right in saying that I was taking the quote from the interpretation section, not the actual by-laws. My mistake, there, and thank you for pointing it out. 3. The by-laws do not state that an ALS has to be an organization of people. It states "Be constituted so that participation by individual(s)... will predominate in the ALS' operation". What is participation? If an organization is an org-of-orgs but it is set up so that its member orgs are controlled by individuals - what is the difference? Why would we purposefully exclude these ones - ESPECIALLY if ICANN says we don't have to? 4. I really think that we need to get a discussion going here on this issue. Do we want to stick with "no orgs-of-orgs" or should we use ICANN's guidelines on this? Darlene Darlene A. Thompson Community Access Program Administrator Nunavut Department of Education/N-CAP c/o P.O. Box 1000, Station 910 Iqaluit, NU X0A 0H0 Phone: (867) 975-6531 Fax: (867) 979-8870 dthompson@gov.nu.ca -----Original Message----- From: John L [mailto:johnl@iecc.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:17 PM To: Thompson, Darlene Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Action Items

What is the benefit of saying "If JJ has gone to all that effort to explain that the bylaws don't mean what they say"?

Because it is true, and all too typical.

The by-laws clearly state that orgs-of-orgs are allowed in plain English (see my last e-mail).

No, what you were referring to is JJ's attempt to reinterpret the bylaws. The actual bylaws language is quoted on page two of his letter and says that ALS are supposed to be organizations of people. R's, John