The folks from NCUC have asked for At-Large support on this, as such i'm forwarding to the list for your comments and review. regards Robert Begin forwarded message:
From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@SYR.EDU> Date: July 1, 2007 12:01:51 AM EDT (CA) To: NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Draft: GNSO Reform proposal
This document elaborates the ideas about GNSO reform that we discussed in San Juan. The GNSO reform proposals that were floating around in Puerto Rico have the potential to really solidify some recent improvements in ICANN, and they also have the potential to do a lot of damage if they go the wrong way. Please give this a look when you get a chance. We need to be unified and informed on this issue, and we need to get the ALAC people to work together with us.
Modifications and comments welcome. I think I will propose that once we complete this document we do some diagrams and print up a bunch for the Los Angeles meeting.
The following two excerpts are from the NCUC document Robert transmitted: *ALAC, the Nominating Committee and GNSO* ... "The NCUC proposal embodies a distinct philosophy regarding the appropriate role of the At Large. In NCUC's view, the At Large is intended to be a mechanism for aggregating the preferences of end users of *all* stakeholder groups across * all* ICANN issues. The At Large is intended to be a generalized representational category that applies to everyone and anyone, regardless of affiliation. At Large representation now includes, and should include, both commercial and noncommercial users and the technical community as well. The At Large is intended to influence Board selections and policy decisions in ways that span all ICANN Supporting Organizations, not just the GNSO. " "In order to fulfill this unique function, ALAC has been given strong representation on the Nominating Committee. Indeed, historically the Nominating Committee was established to serve as a replacement for the At Large election of Board members. Nomcom and At Large thus serve very similar functions in ICANN's representational structure. In effect, both are in a position to influence all Supporting Organization Councils and to look at ICANN issues as a whole. " And: - Would creation of a Stakeholder Group for "Non-Commercial Users," possibly including an Individuals Constituency, overlap with the interests represented by the At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) and its supporting structures? "No. It is a serious misperception to view ALAC as a proxy for specifically *noncommercial* stakeholders within ICANN. Many of the At Large Structures are technical organizations, or trade group oriented. Many of the individuals involved in the At Large are associated with small businesses or are consultants and entrepreneurs. Many ALAC participants would fit just as well within a Commercial Users stakeholder group. " I am interested in hearing how others view the NCUC characterization of At-Large, and their proposed changes viz. At-Large. -MM
The At Large is intended to be a generalized representational category that applies to everyone and anyone, regardless of affiliation. At Large representation now includes, and should include, both commercial and noncommercial users and the technical community as well.
That doesn't agree with my understanding of At Large. I believe that At Large is everyone who isn't represented by other consituencies. This has often been interpreted as meaning individual domain registrants, but I think that's wrong too. The real (and woefully underrepresented) At Large is all the people in the world who have never registered a domain and never will, but who use domains every day as the use the Internet. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
For sure. Also, there is specific wording in the document that was worked on ad infinitem in San Juan that bars entry for any ALS that is controled by a for-profit group/company. D ________________________________ From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org on behalf of John L Sent: Sun 7/1/2007 9:05 PM To: Michael Maranda Cc: NA Discuss Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] Draft: GNSO Reform proposal
The At Large is intended to be a generalized representational category that applies to everyone and anyone, regardless of affiliation. At Large representation now includes, and should include, both commercial and noncommercial users and the technical community as well.
That doesn't agree with my understanding of At Large. I believe that At Large is everyone who isn't represented by other consituencies. This has often been interpreted as meaning individual domain registrants, but I think that's wrong too. The real (and woefully underrepresented) At Large is all the people in the world who have never registered a domain and never will, but who use domains every day as the use the Internet. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com <http://www.johnlevine.com/> , ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. _______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica... --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
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