Re: [NA-Discuss] NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 - It Was A Pleasure
I agree with Robert (surprise?) that it was a real pleasure meeting everyone and I also join Robert in applauding ICANN for getting us all there. I look forward to continuing to work with you all towards many more successes for NARALO, ALAC and ICANN. By the way, does anyone know where I can find the Kayaking website and photos? Seth -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:37 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 Send NA-Discuss mailing list submissions to na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica nn.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at na-discuss-owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NA-Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: .mobi, was San Juan Meeting (John L) 2. Re: status of .aero (John L) 3. A pleasure to finally meet all of you... (Robert Guerra) 4. Re: status of .aero (Dharma Dailey) 5. Draft: GNSO Reform proposal (Robert Guerra) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] .mobi, was San Juan Meeting To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <20070630122641.R61776@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
a telco operation). If anyone has any input or comment for the .mobi people, I'll be glad to forward it or to put any of you in touch with them.
Please tell me, too. I've been listening in on some of the .mobi working groups on ads, email, etc. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] status of .aero To: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: 'NA Discuss' <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <20070630122728.X61776@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Did anyone ever have a chance to ask this question? During the meeting, I saw on the ICANN web site that Ed Hasbrouck goaded the ICANN staff into revealing two hitherto secret amendments giving six-month extensions of the existing .aero agreement, signed on behalf of ICANN by Kurt Pritz. There is nothing the board minutes related to .aero since a 2006 motion that directs the staff to negotiate a new agreement. I believe that all previous registry agreements and amendments have been subject to board vote, so I wish I had a chance to ask how come staff now gets to amend this agreement without telling anyone including, apparently, the board. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
If someone has a chance at the public forum, a registrant in .AERO (me) would like to know the status of the domain. The sponsorship agreement expired in 2006, so at this point it's operating without any contractual authority.
Of the three sTLDs that came up for renewal last year, .MUSEUM got a six month time extension in March, and .COOP is supposed to be reapproved this week, but there's been no action on .AERO since June of 2006, a year ago, when the staff was supposed to negotiate a new agreement.
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:29:22 -0400 From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Subject: [NA-Discuss] A pleasure to finally meet all of you... To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <953F2726-D21B-431D-B2CF-D1B1B4D3D4EB@privaterra.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed First, before anything - i'd like to express to my sincere thanks to ICANN to make it possible for the ALS's in the NA region to be able to attend the San Juan ICANN meeting. It was a great pleasure to meet and finally get to meet all of you. I believe great friendships have developed, something that is just great. I believe that our time together has allowed us to develop a mutual respect and understanding of each other and the different points of view that at times we have. Personally, I think that we have far more in common then we realize. There are great challenges ahead to make At-Large, and indeed ICANN more open, transparent and effective . Working together as a team, I believe we'll be able to make a positive impact in At-Large and ICANN as a whole. in summary - it was an honor to have meet all of you. Thanks for being a great time. I look forward for all of us working together in the coming days and weeks. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:16:02 -0400 From: Dharma Dailey <dharma@ethoswireless.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] status of .aero To: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Cc: 'NA Discuss' <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <D7A0204A-CB01-4AD7-8B0C-C3EA9DD5B5D8@ethoswireless.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I asked in the public forum, "What are the rights of registrants if a registry goes belly up?"- A much more generic form of your question- certainly didn't know all the details that you just mentioned. The answer that I got was very generic as well-- I would summarize about 10 minutes of several panelists talking as "We're working on it." -Dharma Dailey. On Jun 30, 2007, at 12:31 PM, John L wrote:
Did anyone ever have a chance to ask this question?
During the meeting, I saw on the ICANN web site that Ed Hasbrouck goaded the ICANN staff into revealing two hitherto secret amendments giving six-month extensions of the existing .aero agreement, signed on behalf of ICANN by Kurt Pritz.
There is nothing the board minutes related to .aero since a 2006 motion that directs the staff to negotiate a new agreement. I believe that all previous registry agreements and amendments have been subject to board vote, so I wish I had a chance to ask how come staff now gets to amend this agreement without telling anyone including, apparently, the board.
Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex- Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
If someone has a chance at the public forum, a registrant in .AERO (me) would like to know the status of the domain. The sponsorship agreement expired in 2006, so at this point it's operating without any contractual authority.
Of the three sTLDs that came up for renewal last year, .MUSEUM got a six month time extension in March, and .COOP is supposed to be reapproved this week, but there's been no action on .AERO since June of 2006, a year ago, when the staff was supposed to negotiate a new agreement.
_______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge- lists.icann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU
Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:36:32 -0400 From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Draft: GNSO Reform proposal To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <59A07C75-E849-4158-A712-7EFE09FC20BB@privaterra.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The folks from NCUC have asked for At-Large support on this, as such i'm forwarding to the list for your comments and review. regards Robert Begin forwarded message:
From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@SYR.EDU> Date: July 1, 2007 12:01:51 AM EDT (CA) To: NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Draft: GNSO Reform proposal
This document elaborates the ideas about GNSO reform that we discussed in San Juan. The GNSO reform proposals that were floating around in Puerto Rico have the potential to really solidify some recent improvements in ICANN, and they also have the potential to do a lot of damage if they go the wrong way. Please give this a look when you get a chance. We need to be unified and informed on this issue, and we need to get the ALAC people to work together with us.
Modifications and comments welcome. I think I will propose that once we complete this document we do some diagrams and print up a bunch for the Los Angeles meeting.
I agreed with Robert when saying that it was a pleasure meeting and working with you all. Kayak pictures can be found at: http://www.thekayakrental.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=43 Eduardo ISOCPR -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Seth M. Reiss Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 5:57 PM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9,Issue 1 - It Was A Pleasure I agree with Robert (surprise?) that it was a real pleasure meeting everyone and I also join Robert in applauding ICANN for getting us all there. I look forward to continuing to work with you all towards many more successes for NARALO, ALAC and ICANN. By the way, does anyone know where I can find the Kayaking website and photos? Seth -----Original Message----- From: na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:37 AM To: na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org Subject: NA-Discuss Digest, Vol 9, Issue 1 Send NA-Discuss mailing list submissions to na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge-lists.ica nn.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to na-discuss-request@atlarge-lists.icann.org You can reach the person managing the list at na-discuss-owner@atlarge-lists.icann.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NA-Discuss digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: .mobi, was San Juan Meeting (John L) 2. Re: status of .aero (John L) 3. A pleasure to finally meet all of you... (Robert Guerra) 4. Re: status of .aero (Dharma Dailey) 5. Draft: GNSO Reform proposal (Robert Guerra) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:27:23 -0400 (EDT) From: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] .mobi, was San Juan Meeting To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <20070630122641.R61776@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
a telco operation). If anyone has any input or comment for the .mobi people, I'll be glad to forward it or to put any of you in touch with them.
Please tell me, too. I've been listening in on some of the .mobi working groups on ads, email, etc. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 12:31:24 -0400 (EDT) From: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] status of .aero To: "Jacqueline A. Morris" <jam@jacquelinemorris.com> Cc: 'NA Discuss' <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <20070630122728.X61776@simone.iecc.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Did anyone ever have a chance to ask this question? During the meeting, I saw on the ICANN web site that Ed Hasbrouck goaded the ICANN staff into revealing two hitherto secret amendments giving six-month extensions of the existing .aero agreement, signed on behalf of ICANN by Kurt Pritz. There is nothing the board minutes related to .aero since a 2006 motion that directs the staff to negotiate a new agreement. I believe that all previous registry agreements and amendments have been subject to board vote, so I wish I had a chance to ask how come staff now gets to amend this agreement without telling anyone including, apparently, the board. Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex-Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
If someone has a chance at the public forum, a registrant in .AERO (me) would like to know the status of the domain. The sponsorship agreement expired in 2006, so at this point it's operating without any contractual authority.
Of the three sTLDs that came up for renewal last year, .MUSEUM got a six month time extension in March, and .COOP is supposed to be reapproved this week, but there's been no action on .AERO since June of 2006, a year ago, when the staff was supposed to negotiate a new agreement.
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:29:22 -0400 From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Subject: [NA-Discuss] A pleasure to finally meet all of you... To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <953F2726-D21B-431D-B2CF-D1B1B4D3D4EB@privaterra.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed First, before anything - i'd like to express to my sincere thanks to ICANN to make it possible for the ALS's in the NA region to be able to attend the San Juan ICANN meeting. It was a great pleasure to meet and finally get to meet all of you. I believe great friendships have developed, something that is just great. I believe that our time together has allowed us to develop a mutual respect and understanding of each other and the different points of view that at times we have. Personally, I think that we have far more in common then we realize. There are great challenges ahead to make At-Large, and indeed ICANN more open, transparent and effective . Working together as a team, I believe we'll be able to make a positive impact in At-Large and ICANN as a whole. in summary - it was an honor to have meet all of you. Thanks for being a great time. I look forward for all of us working together in the coming days and weeks. regards, Robert --- Robert Guerra <rguerra@privaterra.ca> Managing Director, Privaterra Tel +1 416 893 0377 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:16:02 -0400 From: Dharma Dailey <dharma@ethoswireless.com> Subject: Re: [NA-Discuss] status of .aero To: John L <johnl@iecc.com> Cc: 'NA Discuss' <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <D7A0204A-CB01-4AD7-8B0C-C3EA9DD5B5D8@ethoswireless.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I asked in the public forum, "What are the rights of registrants if a registry goes belly up?"- A much more generic form of your question- certainly didn't know all the details that you just mentioned. The answer that I got was very generic as well-- I would summarize about 10 minutes of several panelists talking as "We're working on it." -Dharma Dailey. On Jun 30, 2007, at 12:31 PM, John L wrote:
Did anyone ever have a chance to ask this question?
During the meeting, I saw on the ICANN web site that Ed Hasbrouck goaded the ICANN staff into revealing two hitherto secret amendments giving six-month extensions of the existing .aero agreement, signed on behalf of ICANN by Kurt Pritz.
There is nothing the board minutes related to .aero since a 2006 motion that directs the staff to negotiate a new agreement. I believe that all previous registry agreements and amendments have been subject to board vote, so I wish I had a chance to ask how come staff now gets to amend this agreement without telling anyone including, apparently, the board.
Regards, John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Information Superhighwayman wanna-be, http://www.johnlevine.com, ex- Mayor "More Wiener schnitzel, please", said Tom, revealingly.
If someone has a chance at the public forum, a registrant in .AERO (me) would like to know the status of the domain. The sponsorship agreement expired in 2006, so at this point it's operating without any contractual authority.
Of the three sTLDs that came up for renewal last year, .MUSEUM got a six month time extension in March, and .COOP is supposed to be reapproved this week, but there's been no action on .AERO since June of 2006, a year ago, when the staff was supposed to negotiate a new agreement.
_______________________________________________ NA-Discuss mailing list NA-Discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/na-discuss_atlarge- lists.icann.org --- Draft MoU with ICANN: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_MOU
Draft Operating Principles: http://www.icannwiki.org/NA_RALO_OP
Draft Code of Conduct: http://www.icannwiki.org/NARALO_Code_of_Conduct
------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 09:36:32 -0400 From: Robert Guerra <lists@privaterra.info> Subject: [NA-Discuss] Draft: GNSO Reform proposal To: NA Discuss <na-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org> Message-ID: <59A07C75-E849-4158-A712-7EFE09FC20BB@privaterra.info> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The folks from NCUC have asked for At-Large support on this, as such i'm forwarding to the list for your comments and review. regards Robert Begin forwarded message:
From: Milton L Mueller <mueller@SYR.EDU> Date: July 1, 2007 12:01:51 AM EDT (CA) To: NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU Subject: Draft: GNSO Reform proposal
This document elaborates the ideas about GNSO reform that we discussed in San Juan. The GNSO reform proposals that were floating around in Puerto Rico have the potential to really solidify some recent improvements in ICANN, and they also have the potential to do a lot of damage if they go the wrong way. Please give this a look when you get a chance. We need to be unified and informed on this issue, and we need to get the ALAC people to work together with us.
Modifications and comments welcome. I think I will propose that once we complete this document we do some diagrams and print up a bunch for the Los Angeles meeting.
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