Query on confusable composite characters
Hello Akshat and the NBGP members, In our recent discussions on confusable composite characters, we have noticed that the confusion is only prominent across certain fonts and not with all universally. I have attached a few samples where the strings and the respective fonts are highlighted in yellow. The question is - are we considering font specific issues here? Are there any fonts being considered to be used as default ones to display Devanagari text on the browser's address bar? Regards, Bal Krishna
Although Mangal is widely used especially on the UNICODE-driven platforms (and not as in True Type texts), Arial Unicode or others are also equally popular, and hence any chance of confusion or the slightest possibility of phishing should be dealt with. Once we set up rules to disambiguate these instances, it would apply across fonts for Domain Name Registration. Regards, Professor Udaya Narayana Singh Chair-Professor & Head, ACLiSAmity Centre for Linguistic Studies (ACLiS)Amity University Haryana, GurgaonPachgaon, Manesar PIN 122431Cell: +91-98301-32234 & 94340-50218 Formerly, Pro-Vice-Chancellor, Visva-Bharati, Santiniketan &Former Director, Central Inst of Indian Languages (CIIL)Home-page www.udayanarayana.com On Monday 24 July 2017, 6:43:48 AM IST, Bal Krishna Bal <bkbal@ltk.org.np> wrote: Hello Akshat and the NBGP members,In our recent discussions on confusable composite characters, we have noticed that the confusion is only prominent across certain fonts and not with all universally. I have attached a few samples where the strings and the respective fonts are highlighted in yellow. The question is - are we considering font specific issues here? Are there any fonts being considered to be used as default ones to display Devanagari text on the browser's address bar?Regards,Bal Krishna _______________________________________________ Neobrahmigp mailing list Neobrahmigp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/neobrahmigp
Thanks Prof. Udaya. Regards, Bal Krishna --- Bal Krishna Bal,PhD Assistant Professor Lead Researcher - Information and Language Processing Research Lab Department of Computer Science and Engineering Kathmandu, University Dhulikhel, Kavre Nepal Homepage: http://ku.edu.np/cse/faculty/bal On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Udaya Narayana Singh via Neobrahmigp < neobrahmigp@icann.org> wrote:
Although Mangal is widely used especially on the UNICODE-driven platforms (and not as in True Type texts), Arial Unicode or others are also equally popular, and hence any chance of confusion or the slightest possibility of phishing should be dealt with. Once we set up rules to disambiguate these instances, it would apply across fonts for Domain Name Registration.
Regards,
Professor Udaya Narayana Singh Chair-Professor & Head, ACLiS Amity Centre for Linguistic Studies (ACLiS) Amity University Haryana, Gurgaon Pachgaon, Manesar PIN 122431 Cell: +91-98301-32234 <+91%2098301%2032234> & 94340-50218
Formerly, Pro-Vice-Chancellor, Visva-Bharati, Santiniketan & Former Director, Central Inst of Indian Languages (CIIL) Home-page www.udayanarayana.com
On Monday 24 July 2017, 6:43:48 AM IST, Bal Krishna Bal <bkbal@ltk.org.np> wrote:
Hello Akshat and the NBGP members, In our recent discussions on confusable composite characters, we have noticed that the confusion is only prominent across certain fonts and not with all universally. I have attached a few samples where the strings and the respective fonts are highlighted in yellow. The question is - are we considering font specific issues here? Are there any fonts being considered to be used as default ones to display Devanagari text on the browser's address bar? Regards, Bal Krishna
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Hello Dr Bal, Thanks for the question. It is indeed important to get this clarified. When we are doing the analysis, we cannot and should not limit ourselves to any specific font. At the same time this is also true that we cannot take into account all the possible fonts. We cannot and should not limit because across the Operating Systems there are various fonts present. Even within the same operating system, across its versions, different fonts can be used. Even if we talk about a particular OS and a particular version, among different browsers different fonts could be used to show the address bar content. If we further fix a particular browser, browsers are not the only place where URLs are used. They can be a part of an email where all the possible fonts can be used. In essence, font specific analysis cannot yield great results. Having said the above, analyzing all the fonts is impossible too. It actually means that there is no fixed way to take this up. In my opinion, we should go by the common glyph shaping behavior within the respective scripts and chart our road ahead. Even across various fonts, styles there is always a common denominator which we can consider. That is what we are doing. Thanks for asking this question. It brings this aspect of our approach, out. Regards, Akshat Joshi On 24-07-2017 06:43, Bal Krishna Bal wrote:
Hello Akshat and the NBGP members, In our recent discussions on confusable composite characters, we have noticed that the confusion is only prominent across certain fonts and not with all universally. I have attached a few samples where the strings and the respective fonts are highlighted in yellow. The question is - are we considering font specific issues here? Are there any fonts being considered to be used as default ones to display Devanagari text on the browser's address bar? Regards, Bal Krishna
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Thanks Akshat for further clarifying the issue. Regards, Bal Krishna On Jul 28, 2017 2:31 PM, "Akshat Joshi" <akshatj@cdac.in> wrote:
Hello Dr Bal,
Thanks for the question. It is indeed important to get this clarified.
When we are doing the analysis, we cannot and should not limit ourselves to any specific font. At the same time this is also true that we cannot take into account all the possible fonts.
We cannot and should not limit because across the Operating Systems there are various fonts present. Even within the same operating system, across its versions, different fonts can be used. Even if we talk about a particular OS and a particular version, among different browsers different fonts could be used to show the address bar content. If we further fix a particular browser, browsers are not the only place where URLs are used. They can be a part of an email where all the possible fonts can be used. In essence, font specific analysis cannot yield great results.
Having said the above, analyzing all the fonts is impossible too.
It actually means that there is no fixed way to take this up. In my opinion, we should go by the common glyph shaping behavior within the respective scripts and chart our road ahead. Even across various fonts, styles there is always a common denominator which we can consider. That is what we are doing.
Thanks for asking this question. It brings this aspect of our approach, out.
Regards,
Akshat Joshi
On 24-07-2017 06:43, Bal Krishna Bal wrote:
Hello Akshat and the NBGP members, In our recent discussions on confusable composite characters, we have noticed that the confusion is only prominent across certain fonts and not with all universally. I have attached a few samples where the strings and the respective fonts are highlighted in yellow. The question is - are we considering font specific issues here? Are there any fonts being considered to be used as default ones to display Devanagari text on the browser's address bar? Regards, Bal Krishna
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