Re: [RDS-WHOIS2-RT] Subgroup 4 Compliance draft report
One comment regarding the second bullet on page 4: The latest ARS report has just over 30%, not 40%. We should update this accordingly. Also "not required to adhere to the 2013 RAA" is not entirely correct as only certain aspects of it would not apply. This comment also applies to bullet 3 on page 5. Also, "registered before 2013" is factually incorrect as grandfathered domains could be newly registered even this year as there is still one registrar under the 2009 RAA. Page : I cannot support draft rec number two, as I detailed in an earlier email on this topic. Draft Rec 3 makes no sense and should be rewritten. Draft Re 7 notes my opposition, but not the reasons behind it. Volker Am 22.06.2018 um 04:10 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Thanks Susan for this confirmation.
Your subgroup consensus notations will be folded into the master slide deck now.
Best, Lisa
At 06:36 PM 6/21/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
Hello All,Â
I have reviewed the slides and they look great. I have also  indicated a preliminary level of consensus for each recommendation.Â
Susan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisa@corecom.com <mailto:lisa@corecom.com>> wrote:
Susan,
Attached are updated slides for the Compliance section of the ICANN62 engagement slide deck, reflecting the recommendations in the subgroup report distributed on 15 June.
Please review to confirm these slides reflect the Compliance subgroup's work and flag any recommendations that have not yet been fully agreed upon by subgroup members. As discussed in today's plenary call, rapporteur edits to their subgroup's slides are requested no later than 15.00 UTC Wednesday.
Regards, Lisa
At 07:18 AM 6/15/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
Hello All,
I have updated the Compliance report for subgroup 4.
Please see attached.
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Hi Volker, Please see my responses in red below On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net> wrote:
One comment regarding the second bullet on page 4:
The latest ARS report has just over 30%, not 40%. We should update this accordingly. Also "not required to adhere to the 2013 RAA" is not entirely correct as only certain aspects of it would not apply.
These slides were based on the review and analysis of the materials previous to the recent report. I have not had time to read the latest ARS report and will not before the meeting. If you would like to add that into the slides as a note I am fine with that but if we change the slide to remove the 40% we would need to do that to the full report and I do not have time to do that until after the meeting.
This comment also applies to bullet 3 on page 5. Also, "registered before 2013" is factually incorrect as grandfathered domains could be newly registered even this year as there is still one registrar under the 2009 RAA.
I do not agree with that can provide more detail and analysis on this point?
Page : I cannot support draft rec number two, as I detailed in an earlier email on this topic.
Please note your objection in the slide. I attempted to note the level of consensus including your objection.
Draft Rec 3 makes no sense and should be rewritten. Please provide proposed edits
Draft Re 7 notes my opposition, but not the reasons behind it.
Please enter your reasoning into the slide.
Volker
Am 22.06.2018 um 04:10 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Thanks Susan for this confirmation.
Your subgroup consensus notations will be folded into the master slide deck now.
Best, Lisa
At 06:36 PM 6/21/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
Hello All,Â
I have reviewed the slides and they look great. I have also  indicated a preliminary level of consensus for each recommendation.Â
Susan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisa@corecom.com> wrote: Susan,
Attached are updated slides for the Compliance section of the ICANN62 engagement slide deck, reflecting the recommendations in the subgroup report distributed on 15 June.
Please review to confirm these slides reflect the Compliance subgroup's work and flag any recommendations that have not yet been fully agreed upon by subgroup members. As discussed in today's plenary call, rapporteur edits to their subgroup's slides are requested no later than 15.00 UTC Wednesday.
Regards, Lisa
At 07:18 AM 6/15/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote: Hello All,
I have updated the Compliance report for subgroup 4.
Please see attached.
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Hi Susan, thank you for your comments, I understand the issue better now. We can just point that out in the presentation. Regarding the grandfathered domains I explained that in the mail I sent yesterday evening. The 2013 date is actually irrelevant to the question of whether a domain is a grandfathered domain or not, the only relevant date is when the registrar it is registered through signed the new RAA. So if it was with registrar X all the time and registrar X only switched to the new RAA in 2016, that is the relevant date for that domain. There is also a significant trend that can be seen in the various ARS reports that shows that grandfathered domains are reducing at a fast pace, exactly what was forseen by the parties to the 2013 RAA. For more on this, I also point to yesterdays mail. For the other points, I will try to submit my proposed edits tomorrow. Best, Volker Am 22.06.2018 um 18:22 schrieb Susan Kawaguchi:
Hi Volker,
Please see my responses in red below
On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@key-systems.net <mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net>> wrote:
One comment regarding the second bullet on page 4:
The latest ARS report has just over 30%, not 40%. We should update this accordingly. Also "not required to adhere to the 2013 RAA" is not entirely correct as only certain aspects of it would not apply.
These slides were based on the review and analysis of the materials previous to the recent report. I have not had time to read the latest ARS report and will not before the meeting. If you would like to add that into the slides as a note I am fine with that but if we change the slide to remove the 40% we would need to do that to the full report and I do not have time to do that until after the meeting.
This comment also applies to bullet 3 on page 5. Also, "registered before 2013" is factually incorrect as grandfathered domains could be newly registered even this year as there is still one registrar under the 2009 RAA.
I do not agree with that can provide more detail and analysis on this point?
Page : I cannot support draft rec number two, as I detailed in an earlier email on this topic.
Please note your objection in the slide. I attempted to note the level of consensus including your objection.
Draft Rec 3 makes no sense and should be rewritten. Please provide proposed edits
Draft Re 7 notes my opposition, but not the reasons behind it.
Please enter your reasoning into the slide.
Volker
Am 22.06.2018 um 04:10 schrieb Lisa Phifer:
Thanks Susan for this confirmation.
Your subgroup consensus notations will be folded into the master slide deck now.
Best, Lisa
At 06:36 PM 6/21/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
Hello All,Â
I have reviewed the slides and they look great. I have also  indicated a preliminary level of consensus for each recommendation.Â
Susan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 5:13 PM, Lisa Phifer <lisa@corecom.com <mailto:lisa@corecom.com>> wrote:
Susan,
Attached are updated slides for the Compliance section of the ICANN62 engagement slide deck, reflecting the recommendations in the subgroup report distributed on 15 June.
Please review to confirm these slides reflect the Compliance subgroup's work and flag any recommendations that have not yet been fully agreed upon by subgroup members. As discussed in today's plenary call, rapporteur edits to their subgroup's slides are requested no later than 15.00 UTC Wednesday.
Regards, Lisa
At 07:18 AM 6/15/2018, Susan Kawaguchi wrote:
Hello All,
I have updated the Compliance report for subgroup 4.
Please see attached.
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