Dear Alan, Yes, T/T of email addresses makes almost no sense. I think that International Email should be mentioned separately as a problem to deal with. On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> wrote:

Thanks Dmitry. Yes, I am well aware of using non-ASCII characters to the left of the @ sign.

My recollection is that for translation/transliteration, the new version would not replace the old one, but be in addition to it. And we are still some way from actually implementing it due to unresolved issues (who will pay for it, whether to use translation or transliteration in any given case (and it is FAR from obvious, since there are plenty of examples where one makes sense and the other is simply meaningless, and vice versa).

Moreover, again my recollection is that the action to be taken is field specific, and I would presume that e-mail addresses are fields where it may not make a lot of sense to even provide T/T versions alongside (although the fact that my left-of-at-sign is "alan.greenberg" DOES convey information, so perhaps there is some reason). But regardless, I think the current work does address the issue. But of course, my recollection could be in error, so we need to verify.

Alan

At 28/09/2017 11:18 AM, Dmitry Belyavsky wrote:

Hello,

The mentioned RFCs describe using addresses with non-ascii symbols in left part. There is an interest to use it as widely as currently we use ASCII email addresses.

The Rec 12 designed to cover the cases of transliteration is not usable for the case of international email addresses. But they are already used as part of WHOIS data in some countries and we should expect that they will be used in gTLDs relatively soon.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca

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wrote: Thanks Dmitry,

Without our reading the RFCs, can you explain exactly what the problem is and how it relates to WHOIS and Rec 12?

Alan

At 28/09/2017 03:28 AM, Dmitry Belyavsky wrote:

Hello,

It's worth mentioning a significant change that happened after 2012.

The International Email (EAI) was standartized (RFC 6530-6533), and at least some ccTLD registries from Asia (I definitely know about .TH) accept such email addresses as domain adminstrator's email. A lot of registries (mostly in Asia) organize more or less active research in this area.

Though it is not acceptable by gTLDs registries yet, I suspect that it will be done soon.

Recommendation #12 is not applicable for the International Email Addresses, so I think that we should deal with this problem.

I think it can be a short mention or (better) recommendation to study this case by an appropriate ICANN working group.

Thank you!

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Jean-Baptiste Deroulez < jean-baptiste.deroulez@icann.org> wrote: Dear Review Team Members,

In preparation for your call #08 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_2...>, scheduled for Thursday, 28 September 2017 – 11:00 UTC, pleease findd below a suggested agenda:

Welcome, roll-call Implementation Briefings on WHOIS Recommendations 4, 12, 13, 14 Scope Face-to-Face meeting #1 Agenda ICANN60 informal meeting A.O.B.

In anticipation of the meeting, we invite you to read the attached slides, the scope and objectives document, and the draft face-to-face meeting agenda.

You should all have received dial-in details to join this call. If not, please contact us off list at rds-whois2-staff@icann.org and we will make sure to send you a copy. If need be, you may join the call up to 20 minutes prior to the scheduled start to test your audio.

As always, feel free to contact us should you have any questions or concerns.

Kind regards, Jean-Baptiste Deroulez

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