Bob, Please explain what you mean by the phrase "Adrian became a member of the "larger" Excom"? I never said it was not fair to charge one member more than another. Please don't misquote me. Otherwise I would never have supported a "forgiveness" model. By definition it allows for different levels of contribution. The point I made was that having one Registrar pay more may create the situation whereby they felt they had more say in matters; it is a perception issue. Also I think it is a slippery slope when you start asking for contributions based on names under management as it doesn't equate to profit (and never has). Regards, Adrian Kinderis Managing Director AusRegistry Group Pty Ltd Level 8, 10 Queens Road Melbourne. Victoria Australia. 3004 Ph: +61 3 9866 3710 Fax: +61 3 9866 1970 Email: adrian@ausregistry.com <mailto:adrian@ausregistry.com> Web: www.ausregistrygroup.com <http://www.ausregistrygroup.com/> The information contained in this communication is intended for the named recipients only. It is subject to copyright and may contain legally privileged and confidential information and if you are not an intended recipient you must not use, copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this communication in error, please delete all copies from your system and notify us immediately. From: owner-votingmembers@registrars.beach.net [mailto:owner-votingmembers@registrars.beach.net] On Behalf Of Robert F. Connelly Sent: Sunday, 29 July 2007 6:52 PM To: Registrars Constituency; RC Voting Members Subject: [RC Voting] Dues of $750 with "forgiveness" for those who choose to pay $250. Dear Members: There has been very little discussion of the proposed budget. Debate ends on Friday, 3 August, just five days from now. Let me tell you how we got to where we are with $750/year with $250 for those requesting "forgiveness": Tim Ruiz, whose company, Godaddy, pays $250/year, suggests that some of the larger RC members pay a higher fee. That resounded to Excom as though it was worth considering. However, Adrian became a member of the "larger" Excom and he said it was not fair to charge one member more than another. The issue was dropped. Then the idea of $750 was vetted, with possible forgiveness for those who felt they should only pay $250. Here is the proposed budget: Registrar's Constituency Budget 2007-2008 Review Period: 30 Days Income & Assets Current Assets (Bank Account) $37,672.31 Proposed Dues $750.00 Number of Members 50 $37,500.00 Proposed Reduced Fees $250.00 Number of Members w/reduced fees 10 $2,500.00 $75,172.31 Expenses Administrative Support-2 $15,000.00 Professional Support-3 $30,000.00 Technical Expenses-4 $4,000.00 Meeting Expenses-5 $5,000.00 $54,000.00 Expected Ending Balance $21,172.31 end quote: It occurs to me to point out that some members have membership for one company but in some way control several other registrars. They take out only one membership because they could not have more than one vote. But they take advantage of that one membership to promote issues of interest (and value) for all of them. Since Tim Ruiz was the one who volunteered to pay a higher "tier" of membership dues, let me use Godaddy as an example: At 09:40 AM 3/8/2007 Thursday -0700, Tim Ruiz wrote: Tom, all of the operational Go Daddy Group registrars agree with the statement and can be added as signatories. GoDaddy.com, Inc. (RC member) Wild West Domains, Inc. Blue Razor Domains, Inc. Go Australia Domains, Inc. Go Canada Domains, Inc. Go China Domains, Inc. Go France Domains, Inc. Go Italy Domains, Inc. end quote: That would be seven membership, at $250/each, that would be $1,750. NetSol controls ICANN Accredited Registrars. But what about Snapnames, Namescout and eNom? It is suggested that some of them have over 100 other ICANN Accredited Registrars. If they coughed up $25,000 each, we could afford the "Technical Support" consultant shown in blue in the Budget, above. I think it would be helpful if the members who had the most at stake were to pay in proportion to their ICANN Accreditations. We have five days to discuss these issues. Regards, BobC 2007-2008 Review Period: 30 Days Income & Assets Current Assets (Bank Account) $37,672.31 Proposed Dues $750.00 Number of Members 50 $37,500.00 Proposed Reduced Fees-1 $250.00 Number of Members w/reduced fees 10 $2,500.00 $75,172.31 Expenses Administrative Support-2 $15,000.00 Professional Support-3 $30,000.00 Technical Expenses-4 $4,000.00 Meeting Expenses-5 $5,000.00 $54,000.00 Expected Ending Balance $21,172.31