Reminder: 9/15 Deadline for Domain Tasting Working Group RFI (Request for Information) submissions
My Fellow Registrars- The Domain Tasting Working Group has a Request for Information (RFI) deadline to respond by September 15, 2007. http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm is the link to the main posting at the ICANN website, and https://www.bigpulse.com/872i is the survey. If you have not taken the opportunity to respond on behalf of your registrar position on the issue, please do. Also, if you are managing intellectual property as well, it would be wise to capture that perspective in the separate RFI that the intellectual property constituency has prepared. As the working group starts to sunset its activities and present its findings to the GNSO for their determination on proceeding to a policy development process, it would be very beneficial to the registrars to have voiced their views on the topic, but also to have identified places where alterations to status quo might have an impact to our businesses. A change to the AGP (actually an elimination of it entirely is on the table is leading statistically in the current survey results) is one of the proposals being discussed. My concern (and IMHO it should be the concern of many of us) is that an elimination of AGP could be potentially disruptive as an unforeseen consequence in the absence of the awareness of its impact. I have been polling with individual registrars on specific use of AGP that they're doing as a sort of straw poll, and I've not had a lot of success directly by contacting the registrars individually that are participants in the working group with regard to responses to it. Unfortunately, the responses are underwhelming within the constituency. I am wondering if there is a full understanding within the group as to what those impacts are or might be, or as I more likely suspect, you're all super focused on your day jobs. Please take some time to what would be the business impact to your registrar if the Add Grace Period was entirely eliminated. The intent is to elevate the awareness of any impacts to the Domain Tasting Working Group so that these impacts, so that these can be taken into consideration should the process move to PDP, so that that process would be able to consider these business impacts. If there's something proprietary that you'd like not to disclose, but the change might impact your operations in some way, please just state the impact without detail and just say "impact to a proprietary service". As some examples, I've given some results that I have heard as feedback from registrars individually without naming names that one could draw from. If you don't have the time to specify detail, at least please identify the high level impact. Examples: * Business Impact due to business line; The loss of the AGP would impact a percentage of my business, the nature of which is proprietary and we are not willing to share, but we'd oppose the elimination AGP in favor of perhaps a restocking fee. * Business impact: Bulk registration customers who participate in 'tasting' in responsible ways (wrt respecting intellectual property) would no longer be able to register domain names. * Costs from technical implementation: The implementation of the changes to the business logic that an elimination of AGP is going to result in costs in my technology group or with technology consultants to program them. * Platform Monitoring impact: An elimination of the AGP would degrade the active security and stability of my registrar provisioning system. Our platform is designed to run a suite of automated tests of the EPP provisioning system by adding a domain, adding name servers, adding hosts, confirming these settings resolve in DNS, change name servers, delete hostnames, and then delete the domain name, at static intervals in order to ensure uptime. Please don't be limited to these as responses, and if one of these examples matches your circumstance, feel free to use those but make them appropriate to the circumstances for the registrar you would be responding for. They are intended only as examples. The working group is keen to hear what the responses are so that these can be factored in to the outcomes. The deadline that I have for collapsing these into a product for the working group is September 15th, I'd request that folks please respond to me before then so that I can incorporate any comments or impacts surrounding the AGP. -Jothan Jothan Frakes Oversee Domain Services ...................................................... 515 S. Flower Street, Suite 4400 Los Angeles, CA 90071 direct +1.213.925.5206 cell +1.206.355.0230 jfrakes@domainsponsor.com www.domainsponsor.com Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you and have a nice day. No lawyers were harmed in the creation of this disclaimer. -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:51 AM To: gnso-dt-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] Reminder: Request for Information on Domain Tasting - closes 15 September 2007 [To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: gnso-dt-wg[at]gnso.icann.org; ga[at]gnso.icann.org;] [To: announce[at]gnso.icann.org; regional-liaisons[at]gnso.icann.org] Reminder: Comments close on 15 September 2007. Please take time to submit your comments. http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm Request for Information on Domain Tasting 10 August 2007 In view of the increase in domain tasting (definitions below), the GNSO Council recently considered an Issues Report on Domain Tasting and resolved to form an ad hoc group for further fact-finding on the effects of this practice. The ad hoc group has prepared these questions to assist in gathering facts and opinions, while inviting both qualitative and quantitative input. The group would especially appreciate statistical and other empirical evidence to support your responses, or references to potential sources of information. To be considered by the group, information should be submitted no later than 15 September 2007 to rfi-domaintasting@xxxxxxxxxx Comments may be viewed at http://forum.icann.org/lists/rfi-domaintasting/. For further information, please see the FAQ annex [PDF, 25K]. http://www.gnso.icann.org/issues/domain-tasting/faqs-domain-tasting-10aug07.... The easiest method of providing your answers and comments, and information related to this RFI, is via the electronic survey available at this link: https://www.bigpulse.com/872i. Responses made to the survey, updated in real time, are available here. http://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=4Rkitd2chD5rD7eyJHJi Thank you. Kind regards Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/> Jothan Frakes Oversee Domain Services ...................................................... 515 S. 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All, I want to thank Jothan for putting this together it is a very good summary of the proceedings and would like to second his request for participation. As a fellow RC representative in this Working Group, I cannot underestimate the importance of fellow Registrars input into this survey. The other constituencies have been very effective in mobilizing their efforts and responding to the survey and we need to have our voices heard. Thanks Jeff ________________________________ From: owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-registrars@gnso.icann.org] On Behalf Of Jothan Frakes Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:08 PM To: registrars@gnso.icann.org Subject: [registrars] Reminder: 9/15 Deadline for Domain Tasting Working Group RFI (Request for Information) submissions My Fellow Registrars- The Domain Tasting Working Group has a Request for Information (RFI) deadline to respond by September 15, 2007. http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm is the link to the main posting at the ICANN website, and https://www.bigpulse.com/872i is the survey. If you have not taken the opportunity to respond on behalf of your registrar position on the issue, please do. Also, if you are managing intellectual property as well, it would be wise to capture that perspective in the separate RFI that the intellectual property constituency has prepared. As the working group starts to sunset its activities and present its findings to the GNSO for their determination on proceeding to a policy development process, it would be very beneficial to the registrars to have voiced their views on the topic, but also to have identified places where alterations to status quo might have an impact to our businesses. A change to the AGP (actually an elimination of it entirely is on the table is leading statistically in the current survey results) is one of the proposals being discussed. My concern (and IMHO it should be the concern of many of us) is that an elimination of AGP could be potentially disruptive as an unforeseen consequence in the absence of the awareness of its impact. I have been polling with individual registrars on specific use of AGP that they're doing as a sort of straw poll, and I've not had a lot of success directly by contacting the registrars individually that are participants in the working group with regard to responses to it. Unfortunately, the responses are underwhelming within the constituency. I am wondering if there is a full understanding within the group as to what those impacts are or might be, or as I more likely suspect, you're all super focused on your day jobs. Please take some time to what would be the business impact to your registrar if the Add Grace Period was entirely eliminated. The intent is to elevate the awareness of any impacts to the Domain Tasting Working Group so that these impacts, so that these can be taken into consideration should the process move to PDP, so that that process would be able to consider these business impacts. If there's something proprietary that you'd like not to disclose, but the change might impact your operations in some way, please just state the impact without detail and just say "impact to a proprietary service". As some examples, I've given some results that I have heard as feedback from registrars individually without naming names that one could draw from. If you don't have the time to specify detail, at least please identify the high level impact. Examples: * Business Impact due to business line; The loss of the AGP would impact a percentage of my business, the nature of which is proprietary and we are not willing to share, but we'd oppose the elimination AGP in favor of perhaps a restocking fee. * Business impact: Bulk registration customers who participate in 'tasting' in responsible ways (wrt respecting intellectual property) would no longer be able to register domain names. * Costs from technical implementation: The implementation of the changes to the business logic that an elimination of AGP is going to result in costs in my technology group or with technology consultants to program them. * Platform Monitoring impact: An elimination of the AGP would degrade the active security and stability of my registrar provisioning system. Our platform is designed to run a suite of automated tests of the EPP provisioning system by adding a domain, adding name servers, adding hosts, confirming these settings resolve in DNS, change name servers, delete hostnames, and then delete the domain name, at static intervals in order to ensure uptime. Please don't be limited to these as responses, and if one of these examples matches your circumstance, feel free to use those but make them appropriate to the circumstances for the registrar you would be responding for. They are intended only as examples. The working group is keen to hear what the responses are so that these can be factored in to the outcomes. The deadline that I have for collapsing these into a product for the working group is September 15th, I'd request that folks please respond to me before then so that I can incorporate any comments or impacts surrounding the AGP. -Jothan Jothan Frakes Oversee Domain Services ...................................................... 515 S. Flower Street, Suite 4400 Los Angeles, CA 90071 direct +1.213.925.5206 cell +1.206.355.0230 jfrakes@domainsponsor.com www.domainsponsor.com Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you and have a nice day. No lawyers were harmed in the creation of this disclaimer. -----Original Message----- From: owner-gnso-dt-wg@icann.org [mailto:owner-gnso-dt-wg@icann.org] On Behalf Of GNSO.SECRETARIAT@GNSO.ICANN.ORG Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 8:51 AM To: gnso-dt-wg@icann.org Subject: [gnso-dt-wg] Reminder: Request for Information on Domain Tasting - closes 15 September 2007 [To: council[at]gnso.icann.org; liaison6c[at]gnso.icann.org] [To: gnso-dt-wg[at]gnso.icann.org; ga[at]gnso.icann.org;] [To: announce[at]gnso.icann.org; regional-liaisons[at]gnso.icann.org] Reminder: Comments close on 15 September 2007. Please take time to submit your comments. http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-2-10aug07.htm Request for Information on Domain Tasting 10 August 2007 In view of the increase in domain tasting (definitions below), the GNSO Council recently considered an Issues Report on Domain Tasting and resolved to form an ad hoc group for further fact-finding on the effects of this practice. The ad hoc group has prepared these questions to assist in gathering facts and opinions, while inviting both qualitative and quantitative input. The group would especially appreciate statistical and other empirical evidence to support your responses, or references to potential sources of information. To be considered by the group, information should be submitted no later than 15 September 2007 to rfi-domaintasting@xxxxxxxxxx Comments may be viewed at http://forum.icann.org/lists/rfi-domaintasting/. For further information, please see the FAQ annex [PDF, 25K]. http://www.gnso.icann.org/issues/domain-tasting/faqs-domain-tasting-10aug07.... The easiest method of providing your answers and comments, and information related to this RFI, is via the electronic survey available at this link: https://www.bigpulse.com/872i. Responses made to the survey, updated in real time, are available here. http://www.bigpulse.com/pollresults?code=4Rkitd2chD5rD7eyJHJi Thank you. Kind regards Glen -- Glen de Saint Géry GNSO Secretariat - ICANN gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org http://gnso.icann.org <http://gnso.icann.org/> Jothan Frakes Oversee Domain Services ...................................................... 515 S. Flower Street, Suite 4400 Los Angeles, CA 90071 direct +1.213.925.5206 cell +1.206.355.0230 jfrakes@domainsponsor.com www.domainsponsor.com <http://www.domainsponsor.com/> Confidentiality Warning: This e-mail contains information intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this e-mail is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, any dissemination, publication or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. The sender does not accept any responsibility for any loss, disruption or damage to your data or computer system that may occur while using data contained in, or transmitted with, this e-mail. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. Thank you and have a nice day.
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Jeffrey Eckhaus -
Jothan Frakes