NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED -- Converted from text/plain format --> I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc., Sharon Sharon Lemon OBE. Deputy Director e-Crime, Crime Techniques, Prevention and Alerts | Serious Organised Crime Agency | PO BOX 8000 | London | SE11 5EN | Tel: +44 (0)20 7238 8583 | Mobile: +44 (0)7768 290902 | Email: sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk Get Safe Online Week 2010 runs from 15th-19th November. Visit the website to learn more or follow us on twitter @GetSafeOnline Get Safe Online is a joint initiative between the Government, the Serious Organised Crime Agency, and public and private sector sponsors from the worlds of technology, communication, retail and finance to raise awareness of internet security, and help individuals and smaller businesses in the UK to use the internet confidently and safely. -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Smith, Bill Sent: 12 November 2010 19:32 To: Kim G. von Arx Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Planning our next steps Kim, I agree we'll have to make those "hard decisions". As someone who has already done a WHOIS review, what are the limitations of a forward-looking policy that considers two broad classes of "users"; those that want to restrict access, and those that want to have "open" access. To my mind, this seems a simple and elegant framework, at least for discussion purposes. Regards, Bill
-----Original Message----- From: Kim G. von Arx [mailto:kim@vonarx.ca] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 10:20 AM To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Planning our next steps
Hi Bill:
I agree that grouping various interests/people etc is artificial, but I submit that that is always the case and is a general problem of any policy review and development. In light of that, we will have to eventually make those distinctions and categorization otherwise it will be impossible to review the effectiveness of the WHOIS. I truly agree with you that there are a myriad of different and legitimate interests which, in theory, would call for a broad and global public consultation to ascertain and determine as many views as possible. However, this raises three major problems:
1. Knowledge of the issues at discussion - this requires a fairly significant amount of education. When we did the CIRA WHOIS review and development we had a total of 3 public consultations with extensive background information to explain the WHOIS issues. Also, we had various public fora across the country to discuss and collect further information from our stakeholders.
2. Lack of interest - with the lack of knowledge of the issues, there comes a fairly large amount of disinterest. We always related it to electricity. We are all happy when we plug in a device in to the outlet and all works and expect it to work, but the majority of us have no idea and, indeed, no interest to learn more about the policies, regulatory framework, etc. that affect the provision of those services.
3. The global canvass - a public consultation would require a huge amount of time, effort, and money to reach as many people as possible.
Just looking at the new TLD outreach, I submit that, despite the enormous and laudable attempts by ICANN to inform the global community
only a very very small fraction of the Internet community have any understanding of the implications, issues, problems, and benefits of this new TLD initiative.
Therefore, in short, we will have to make the hard decisions of who our stakeholders are and how we define/categorize each.
Kim
On 12 Nov 2010, at 12:57, Smith, Bill wrote:
Hi Kim,
I agree that these groups have legitimate interests. The grouping you have proposed is easily understood and would provide a framework for us to invite input.
However, I submit that the grouping is in some ways artificial and consequently could be problematic if we try and weigh the issues and concerns of one group against the other.
As examples consider consumer advocates and registrants. Some consumer advocates might argue for strict limitation on access to WHOIS records while others would argue for a more liberal approach (privacy vs fraud prevention/detection). Similarly, some registrants will want anonymity and therefore a strict limitation on access (e.g. dissidents) while others will argue for easier access in order to enhance the security of the Internet generally (e.g. to reduce spam, phishing, malware, and the like).
In my opinion, there are legitimate reasons for both "open" and restricted access. Those reasons need not neatly fall into groups, regardless of how we attempt to organize things. From my perspective, that is the larger issue; how to grant legitimate access to certain pieces of information traditionally carried by WHOIS and at the same time, restrict access to information carried in WHOIS.
Finally, the grouping follows "ICANN tradition" and may tend to pit, for example, some registrants against some registrars/registries. In my opinion, that would be unfortunate if it causes groups/individuals to resort to the entrenched positions that have been held for years. I
believe we need a different approach for a way forward.
Regards,
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: Kim G. von Arx [mailto:kim@vonarx.ca] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:16 AM To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Planning our next steps
Hi Bill:
I am not suggesting that we give them a preferred position, nor do I think we should give anyone a preferred position, but listen to the various stakeholders. This, of course, raises the issue, as we
had discussed on our last call, who are stakeholders are.
I agree with you that it is a large group of varied interests, but I think we need to start somewhere and the known and strong advocates so far are law enforcement, consumer advocates, rights holders, and registrants in general. I think that, in general, those three groups will cover a large majority of the interest groups provided we keep
each broad enough.
In light of that, my suggestion was simply to give us the various perspective of a number of different interest groups. I suspect that we will have various other people speak at our face to face meetings to provide their respective views.
Kim
On 12 Nov 2010, at 12:01, Smith, Bill wrote:
With a broad interpretation, should there be any limitation regarding where concerns originate from? I think not.
Copyright and trademark owners wish to protect their property. Certain website/domain owners wish to protect their legitimate need for anonymity. Yet other entities wish to address issues related to phishing, spam, malware, fraud, etc. via legitimate efforts to protect their customers and good name. And there are many, many more such scenarios.
I'd hesitate to give "rights holders", or any other stakeholder a preferred position at our table. All have legitimate interests.
-----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois- bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Kim G. von Arx Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 8:31 AM To: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Planning our next steps
Hi Wilfried:
I don't think we should necessarily limit it to just trademark owners, but IP rights holders in general as issues may arise with respect to, e.g., copyright.
Kim
On 12 Nov 2010, at 11:20, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
Hi Kim, Team!
Kim G. von Arx wrote:
> Hi Emily et al: > > >> - What is ICANN's policy at the moment? Would any member of the Team be in a position to do a presentation on this? Or should we
invite someone from the staff to cover this point?
> > > I would suggest a staff member to make that presentation
+1, actually it would be nice if some information for this topic would already be available (probably only in rough draft format) for the Sunday get-together.
Alternatively, a set of pointers to relevant information or documents.
> I agree with all of the items listed, but hope that we will > have started most of the work already. My thinking is that our face to face meetings, however, should focus on fine tuning rough brushstroke proposals and advance contentious and problematic areas as well as provide expert presentations to assist us to reach consensus. I would like to also suggest that we invite someone from the rights-holder constituency to bring their concerns to the table. With respect to format, I think it would be best if we start all of our face to face meetings with administrative issues first and then dive in to the
presentations for half a day and then commence the substantive work for the remaining 1.5 days.
"rights-holder" to be understood as trademark owners?
>> Attendance at San Francisco and other ICANN meetings >> >> I would welcome the Team's thoughts on this. I'd like to
propose the following format for all ICANN meetings that time place during our mandate
>> >> - We all aim to have a 1.5 day Team meeting > > > I would suggest that we aim for a 2-day team meeting to utilize our face to face time as much as possible.
OK for me.
>> - In addition, we should use ICANN meetings for outreach to: >> - the Supporting Organisations and Advisory Committees >> - the Board >> - any local stakeholder groups who are relevant to our task >> >> I would like to use the outreach sessions to build liaison >> with the relevant SO/ACs, inform them about how and what we're doing, ask them what they think we should be doing, and how they can contribute to our task. Would it be possible for those who have been put forward by different SO/ACs to accompany the Chair/Vice Chair to those meetings and help lead the discussions? > > > agreed > >> >> Our next call >> I propose that in our next call we focus on: >> >> - broad brush stakeholder identification, from a global perspective >> - identifying what, if any, external resources we need. > > > agreed. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- --
Wilfried
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I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
So do I! Which members of the TEAM does have that experience already - if any?
Sharon
Wilfried
Hi there On 13 Nov 2010, at 12:37, Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet wrote:
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I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
So do I!
Which members of the TEAM does have that experience already - if any?
Best, E Kim von Arx has, and so have I. Anyone else?
Sharon
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Yes - I was a member of a Whois working group with ICANN in 2007. And I have a file of published ICANN documents on actions taken since then. I will be happy to organize key documents and share. And there are pending studies initiated prior to our group being formed. I am expecting us to review these upcoming studies as part of our overall scope of work. Kind regards, Lynn Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> Sender: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:05:17 To: <Woeber@cc.univie.ac.at> Cc: <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Planning our next steps _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co...
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Dear Team members, I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs. Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk>wrote:
Dear all
Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too.
Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time.
In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy.
Kind regards, and thanks in advance
Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf
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Dear Team members: WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information> It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged! Please let me know if we can be of further assistance. Regards, Denise PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list. Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct 1. Background 2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance 3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical) 4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity 5. IANA and Whois 6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena 7. Additional Information Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies – November 2010 Update On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
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On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Dear All: I may be 30-45 minutes late. My apologies for that. Kim On 23 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Denise Michel wrote:
Dear Team members:
WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information>
It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged!
Please let me know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards, Denise
PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
1. Background
2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance
3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical)
4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity
5. IANA and Whois
6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena
7. Additional Information
Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References
Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies – November 2010 Update
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Thank you Denise, that's very useful. I see that there are two registrar accreditation agreeements (RAA) one dated of May 2011 (?). This RAA is a very important document for our RT. Does it mean that all the registrars are now under this last contract or the new accredited registrars only ? For us, does it mean that we have to work on both documents ? thank you for your help. Olivier On 23 Nov 2010 at 14:17, Denise Michel wrote:
Dear Team members:
WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information>
It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged!
Please let me know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards, Denise
PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
1. Background
2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance
3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical)
4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity
5. IANA and Whois
6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena
7. Additional Information
Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References
Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Hello, Olivier. Good question. The ICANN Board approved the revisions to the RAA in 21 May 2009. The revised (or "new form") RAA applies to all new registrars, registrars that renew after 21 May 2009, and all registrars that voluntarily adopt the new contract prior to their renewal date. I'll get the latest #s on adoption for the Team (or perhaps Liz Gasster has the latest to share?). Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Olivier ITEANU <oiteanu@iteanu.com> wrote:
Thank you Denise, that's very useful.
I see that there are two registrar accreditation agreeements (RAA) one dated of May 2011 (?). This RAA is a very important document for our RT.
Does it mean that all the registrars are now under this last contract or the new accredited registrars only ?
For us, does it mean that we have to work on both documents ?
thank you for your help.
Olivier
On 23 Nov 2010 at 14:17, Denise Michel wrote:
Dear Team members:
WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: < https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information
It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged!
Please let me know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards, Denise
PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
1. Background
2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance
3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical)
4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity
5. IANA and Whois
6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena
7. Additional Information
Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References
Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and
reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <
emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would
like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too.
Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12...
http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co...
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Here are the RAA adoption statistics, based on September 2010 data. I'll add this information to the wiki. Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct RAA Statistics Report date: 23 November 2010 Using Registry Data from: September 2010 *Total Accredited Registrars: 966* Total Domains: 125,151,250 *2001 RAA Data* Registrars on 2001 RAA: 221 (22.88%) Registrars Under 2001 – New RAA Pending: 4 Domains Under 2001 – New RAA Pending: 145,808 (0.12%) 2001 RAA Extension: 1 (93) GKG.NET, INC. *2009 RAA Data* Domains Covered by 2009 RAA: 119,232,721 (95.27%) Registrars on 2009 RAA: 745 (77.12%) Early Adoption: 355 (47.65%) Renewal: 307 (41.21%) New: 79 (10.60%) Assignment: 4 (0.54%) On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org>wrote:
Hello, Olivier.
Good question. The ICANN Board approved the revisions to the RAA in 21 May 2009. The revised (or "new form") RAA applies to all new registrars, registrars that renew after 21 May 2009, and all registrars that voluntarily adopt the new contract prior to their renewal date.
I'll get the latest #s on adoption for the Team (or perhaps Liz Gasster has the latest to share?).
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Olivier ITEANU <oiteanu@iteanu.com>wrote:
Thank you Denise, that's very useful.
I see that there are two registrar accreditation agreeements (RAA) one dated of May 2011 (?). This RAA is a very important document for our RT.
Does it mean that all the registrars are now under this last contract or the new accredited registrars only ?
For us, does it mean that we have to work on both documents ?
thank you for your help.
Olivier
On 23 Nov 2010 at 14:17, Denise Michel wrote:
Dear Team members:
WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: < https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information
It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged!
Please let me know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards, Denise
PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
1. Background
2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance
3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical)
4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity
5. IANA and Whois
6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena
7. Additional Information
Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References
Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel < denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and
reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <
emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would
like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too.
Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12...
http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf
http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co...
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Denise Thank you, I guess that the figures below are just for gtld and do not include cc registrars and domain names ? Regards, -------------------------------------------------- On 24 Nov 2010 at 10:42, Denise Michel wrote: Here are the RAA adoption statistics, based on September 2010 data. I'll add this information to the wiki. Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct RAA Statistics Report date: 23 November 2010 Using Registry Data from: September 2010 Total Accredited Registrars: 966 Total Domains: 125,151,250 2001 RAA Data Registrars on 2001 RAA: 221 (22.88%) Registrars Under 2001 - New RAA Pending: 4 Domains Under 2001 - New RAA Pending: 145,808(0.12%) 2001 RAA Extension: 1 (93) GKG.NET, INC. 2009 RAA Data Domains Covered by 2009 RAA: 119,232,721 (95.27%) Registrars on 2009 RAA: 745 (77.12%) Early Adoption: 355 (47.65%) Renewal: 307 (41.21%) New: 79 (10.60%) Assignment: 4 (0.54%) On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote: Hello, Olivier. Good question. The ICANN Board approved the revisions to the RAA in 21 May 2009. The revised (or "new form") RAA applies to all new registrars, registrars that renew after 21 May 2009, and all registrars that voluntarily adopt the new contract prior to their renewal date. I'll get the latest #s on adoption for the Team (or perhaps Liz Gasster has the latest to share?). Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Olivier ITEANU <oiteanu@iteanu.com> wrote: Thank you Denise, that's very useful. I see that there are two registrar accreditation agreeements (RAA) one dated of May 2011 (?). This RAA is a very important document for our RT. Does it mean that all the registrars are now under this last contract or the new accredited registrars only ? For us, does it mean that we have to work on both documents ? thank you for your help. Olivier On 23 Nov 2010 at 14:17, Denise Michel wrote: > Dear Team members: > > WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: > <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information> > > It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by > the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois > history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide > you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted > previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, > based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged! > > Please let me know if we can be of further assistance. > > Regards, > Denise > > PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please > contact Alice off-list. > > Denise Michel > ICANN > Advisor to the President > denise.michel@icann.org > +1.408.429.3072 mobile > +1.310.578.8632 direct > > > 1. Background > > 2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance > > 3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical) > > 4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity > > 5. IANA and Whois > > 6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena > > 7. Additional Information > > Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References > > Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote: > > > > Dear Team members, > > > > I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs. > > > > Regards, > > Denise > > > > Denise Michel > > ICANN > > Advisor to the President > > denise.michel@icann.org > > +1.408.429.3072 mobile > > +1.310.578.8632 direct > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote: > >> > >> Dear all > >> Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. > >> Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. > >> In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. > >> Kind regards, and thanks in advance > >> Emily > >> > >> > >> On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote: > >> > >> * <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote: > >> > >> I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois > >> > >> Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc., > >> > >> http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm > >> http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm > >> http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... > >> http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf > >> http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rt4-whois mailing list > >> Rt4-whois@icann.org > >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > >> > >> 76 Temple Road, Oxford OX4 2EZ UK > >> telephone: 01865 582 811 mobile: 07540 049 322 > >> emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk www.etlaw.co.uk > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Rt4-whois mailing list > >> Rt4-whois@icann.org > >> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Rt4-whois mailing list > Rt4-whois@icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois Olivier ITEANU - mailto:oiteanu@iteanu.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- I T E A N U Société d'Avocats - Law Firm 164, rue du Faubourg Saint-Honore 75008 PARIS Tel. + 33 (0)1 42 56 90 00 Fax + 33 (0)1 42 56 90 02 e-mail: contact@iteanu.com - www.iteanu.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- Olivier ITEANU - mailto:oiteanu@iteanu.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- I T E A N U Société d'Avocats - Law Firm 164, rue du Faubourg Saint-Honore 75008 PARIS Tel. + 33 (0)1 42 56 90 00 Fax + 33 (0)1 42 56 90 02 e-mail: contact@iteanu.com - www.iteanu.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
Hi Denise, Liz and Pam, You have posted a mountain of Whois work accumulated across the years -- and organized it well. I do not know how long it took you to pull all of this information together, but I am tremendously grateful. It is an archival asset for the Review Team, as well as a guide to current events. Great appreciation! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Denise Michel Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:18 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for ICANN WHOIS resources Dear Team members: WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information> It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged! Please let me know if we can be of further assistance. Regards, Denise PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list. Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct 1. Background 2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance 3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical) 4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity 5. IANA and Whois 6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena 7. Additional Information Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Hi Denise As Kathy says, this is a great job. Thank you for summarising the key inputs. It is very helpful to have this way of navigating through the documents. Thanks Emily On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:48, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
Hi Denise, Liz and Pam, You have posted a mountain of Whois work accumulated across the years -- and organized it well. I do not know how long it took you to pull all of this information together, but I am tremendously grateful. It is an archival asset for the Review Team, as well as a guide to current events.
Great appreciation! Kathy
-----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Denise Michel Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:18 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for ICANN WHOIS resources
Dear Team members:
WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information>
It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged!
Please let me know if we can be of further assistance.
Regards, Denise
PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
1. Background
2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance
3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical)
4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity
5. IANA and Whois
6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena
7. Additional Information
Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References
Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Team members,
I would be happy to provide links for background information and reference. I will coordinate with relevant ICANN staff and organize and post them on the wiki. That way, we can easily add to them as Team members identify additional needs.
Regards, Denise
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Emily Taylor <emily.taylor@etlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Dear all Bearing in mind Sharon's request and Lutz's response (below), I would like to ask Denise Michel of the ICANN staff to post materials relating to ICANN's WHOIS policy on the Wiki for the benefit of the team. I'm aware that the WHOIS policy development process has been going on for some time, and in a number of communities within ICANN. There are also enforcement aspects too. Being ICANN (no offence!), there are likely to be a very large number of documents, so it would be of great assistance if the materials could be clearly signposted under headings, and if possible a short summary of the state of play for members of the Team who are pushed for time. In my view, having these background materials will be a useful reference point, but not an alternative to having Denise or one of her colleagues join us in person at the London meeting to give us a presentation on key aspects of ICANN's WHOIS policy. Kind regards, and thanks in advance Emily
On 18 Nov 2010, at 17:17, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:
* <sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk> wrote:
I would be very interested in having a presentation on previous Whois
Reviews, their findings, outcomes, learning points etc.,
http://www.icann.org/en/gnso/whois-tf/report-19feb03.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/prelim-tf-rpt-18jan06.htm http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/whois-services-final-tf-report-12... http://www.icann.org/processes/revised-draft-whois-procedure-18dec07.pdf http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois/whois-study-hypothesis-group-report-to-co... _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Excelent! It’s the best way to get in touch with all that happened in the Whois process in the past. Great job, thank you! I’ll start studying ASAP. Omar From: Emily Taylor Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 4:25 PM To: Denise Michel Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for ICANN WHOIS resources Hi Denise As Kathy says, this is a great job. Thank you for summarising the key inputs. It is very helpful to have this way of navigating through the documents. Thanks Emily On 29 Nov 2010, at 17:48, Kathy Kleiman wrote: Hi Denise, Liz and Pam, You have posted a mountain of Whois work accumulated across the years -- and organized it well. I do not know how long it took you to pull all of this information together, but I am tremendously grateful. It is an archival asset for the Review Team, as well as a guide to current events. Great appreciation! Kathy -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Denise Michel Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 5:18 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Request for ICANN WHOIS resources Dear Team members: WHOIS Background Information has been posted on the wiki: <https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/WHOIS+Background+Information> It includes brief explanations and links to information organized by the topics listed below. With over a decade's worth of ICANN Whois history to draw from, Liz Gasster, Pam Little and I tried to provide you with key resources without overwhelming you. As I noted previously, we are expecting to fine tune and add to this wiki page, based on Team members' needs. Comments are encouraged! Please let me know if we can be of further assistance. Regards, Denise PS. If you need assistance accessing or using the wiki, please contact Alice off-list. Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct 1. Background 2. Selected Whois Accuracy Work by Compliance 3. Overview of Selected Whois Policy Activity (historical) 4. Overview of Current Whois Policy Activity 5. IANA and Whois 6. Two Whois-related sessions in Cartagena 7. Additional Information Annex A -- Links to Other Reports and References Annex B -- Status of GNSO Council-requested WHOIS studies - November 2010 Update
Colleagues, Very unfortunately, due to severe meteorological conditions in Moscow and in Paris, I am unable to come to Cartagena tomorrow before the meeting. More over, I will be unable to attend remotely because I will be at the aircraft in my way to Cartagena :(. However I will be very glad to meet all of you coming there, when it is possible later. My phone # there will be +44 79 1224 8722. Rgds, Michael
Dear Michael, I am so sorry to hear you are delayed, and we will miss you at our meeting tomorrow. Should it be possible to participate remotely (in the unfortunate event that you are further delayed), Alice will send you the remote participation details. Please feel free to send us ideas you have regarding the Scope of Work issues that you would like us to consider in this part of the discussion -- and we look forward to when you can rejoin us. Also, please know that many people are delayed, and the early part of the meeting will be strangely quiet as many key voices are missing. Best and safe travels, Kathy Mobile:+1 703-371-6846 -----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Yakushev Mikhail Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:33 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Cartagena Colleagues, Very unfortunately, due to severe meteorological conditions in Moscow and in Paris, I am unable to come to Cartagena tomorrow before the meeting. More over, I will be unable to attend remotely because I will be at the aircraft in my way to Cartagena :(. However I will be very glad to meet all of you coming there, when it is possible later. My phone # there will be +44 79 1224 8722. Rgds, Michael _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
Hi Michael I'm sorry to hear that you've been delayed because of the snow. I hope that you will join our small group (me, Omar, Sharon, Susan) when you are able to. I am also likely to be delayed in joining the meeting, as I have also had to change my plans because of the snow, and will be in a plane at the beginning of our session. I hope it all goes well, and safe travels to all who are en route to Cartagena. Emily On 4 Dec 2010, at 19:02, Kathy Kleiman wrote:
Dear Michael, I am so sorry to hear you are delayed, and we will miss you at our meeting tomorrow. Should it be possible to participate remotely (in the unfortunate event that you are further delayed), Alice will send you the remote participation details.
Please feel free to send us ideas you have regarding the Scope of Work issues that you would like us to consider in this part of the discussion -- and we look forward to when you can rejoin us.
Also, please know that many people are delayed, and the early part of the meeting will be strangely quiet as many key voices are missing.
Best and safe travels, Kathy Mobile:+1 703-371-6846
-----Original Message----- From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Yakushev Mikhail Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 10:33 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Cartagena
Colleagues, Very unfortunately, due to severe meteorological conditions in Moscow and in Paris, I am unable to come to Cartagena tomorrow before the meeting. More over, I will be unable to attend remotely because I will be at the aircraft in my way to Cartagena :(. However I will be very glad to meet all of you coming there, when it is possible later. My phone # there will be +44 79 1224 8722. Rgds, Michael
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participants (11)
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Denise Michel -
Emily Taylor -
Kathy Kleiman -
Kim G. von Arx -
Lutz Donnerhacke -
lynn@goodsecurityconsulting.com -
Olivier ITEANU -
Omar Kaminski -
sharon.lemon@soca.x.gsi.gov.uk -
Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet -
Yakushev Mikhail