Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC
Hello All, I have quickly reviewed the chapter edits and insertion of Steve Crocker's comments. The only comments I have relate to page 26 · Data accuracy – In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the “NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10”). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records were fully accurate [SMR1] and over 20% were completely inaccurate. The[Sk2] low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation’s priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. ________________________________ [SMR1]Crocker asks for a definition here. [Sk2]In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. No Failure Met all three criteria fully – deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview Full failure – Failed on all criteria – undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. No Failure Met all three criteria fully – deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview Full failure – Failed on all criteria – undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview I have suggested a revision below in yellow. Data accuracy – In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the “NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10”). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records met the study's criteria for No Failure and over 20% were categorized as Full Failure. The[low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation’s priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. I am open to changing it to something similar to what I have suggested or leaving it as it since the community knew, for the most part, what we were talking about. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 From: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss@lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:46:12 -1000 To: 'Alice Jansen' <alice.jansen@icann.org<mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org>>, <rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Chapter edits (minimalist approach employed). Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:53 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Importance: High Dear Review Team Members, As you know, your next call is scheduled for Wednesday, 2 May at 06:00 UTC (time converter:http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+RT+-+2+May+-+06%3...) Please find enclosed the agenda, also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+30+-+2+May+2012 Thanks, Kind regards Alice ----------- Tomorrow's call will be our last as a review team, and our task is to sign off the final report. If you are unable to make the call, please indicate your agreement or any comments on the executive summary and compliance chapter if you have not already done so.* 1. Executive summary - Sign off general text - Discuss outstanding proposals for amendments and reach conclusions - IDN recommendations - final text for approval. 2. Compliance chapter - Sign off general text 3. Full report (other chapters) - Report from Seth on edits (minimalist approach) - Sign off by RT 4. Steps to publication - Clean up tracked changes and combine into single document (Alice) - Final check for sense (Alice, Emily, Kathy) - Review Appendices and add new material as referenced (table showing public comments, additional Compliance documents referenced in the new chapter), and agree publication date for appendices (proposal - 11 May) 5. AOB and vote of thanks for ICANN staff support. ------------- * To date, received from Bill, Kathy, Peter and Susan. -- Alice Jansen Organizational Reviews Manager 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann _______________________________________________Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
The proposed change sounds very sensible to me. Thanks Susan. Seth From: Susan Kawaguchi [mailto:susank@fb.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 9:26 AM To: Seth M Reiss; 'Alice Jansen'; rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Hello All, I have quickly reviewed the chapter edits and insertion of Steve Crocker's comments. The only comments I have relate to page 26 Data accuracy - In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the "NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10"). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records were fully accurate [SMR1] <> [SMR1]and over 20% were completely inaccurate. The[Sk2] <> [Sk2] low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation's priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. No Failure Met all three criteria fully - deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview Full failure - Failed on all criteria - undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview I have suggested a revision below in yellow. Data accuracy - In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the "NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10"). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records met the study's criteria for No Failure and over 20% were categorized as Full Failure. The[low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation's priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. I am open to changing it to something similar to what I have suggested or leaving it as it since the community knew, for the most part, what we were talking about. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 From: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss@lex-ip.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:46:12 -1000 To: 'Alice Jansen' <alice.jansen@icann.org>, <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Chapter edits (minimalist approach employed). Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:53 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Importance: High Dear Review Team Members, As you know, your next call is scheduled for Wednesday, 2 May at 06:00 UTC (time converter:http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+RT+-+2+ May+-+06%3A00+UTC <http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+RT+-+2+May+-+06% 3A00+UTC&iso=20120502T06&ah=1&am=30> &iso=20120502T06&ah=1&am=30) Please find enclosed the agenda, also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+30+-+2+May+2012 Thanks, Kind regards Alice ----------- Tomorrow's call will be our last as a review team, and our task is to sign off the final report. If you are unable to make the call, please indicate your agreement or any comments on the executive summary and compliance chapter if you have not already done so.* 1. Executive summary - Sign off general text - Discuss outstanding proposals for amendments and reach conclusions - IDN recommendations - final text for approval. 2. Compliance chapter - Sign off general text 3. Full report (other chapters) - Report from Seth on edits (minimalist approach) - Sign off by RT 4. Steps to publication - Clean up tracked changes and combine into single document (Alice) - Final check for sense (Alice, Emily, Kathy) - Review Appendices and add new material as referenced (table showing public comments, additional Compliance documents referenced in the new chapter), and agree publication date for appendices (proposal - 11 May) 5. AOB and vote of thanks for ICANN staff support. ------------- * To date, received from Bill, Kathy, Peter and Susan. -- Alice Jansen Organizational Reviews Manager 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann _______________________________________________Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2169 / Virus Database: 2411/4973 - Release Date: 05/02/12 _____ [SMR1] <> Crocker asks for a definition here. [Sk2] <> In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. No Failure Met all three criteria fully - deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview Full failure - Failed on all criteria - undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview
Hi Susan, From my quick reading, it seems to make sense to align the text with the wording we adopted for the recommendations, particularly as doing would address a specific criticism from the community, and so I would support your proposed amendment. Cheers, Peter From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Susan Kawaguchi Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 5:26 AM To: Seth M Reiss; 'Alice Jansen'; rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Hello All, I have quickly reviewed the chapter edits and insertion of Steve Crocker's comments. The only comments I have relate to page 26 Data accuracy - In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the "NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10"). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records were fully accurate [SMR1] [SMR1]and over 20% were completely inaccurate. The[Sk2] [Sk2] low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation's priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. No Failure Met all three criteria fully - deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview Full failure - Failed on all criteria - undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview I have suggested a revision below in yellow. Data accuracy - In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the "NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10"). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records met the study's criteria for No Failure and over 20% were categorized as Full Failure. The[low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation's priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. I am open to changing it to something similar to what I have suggested or leaving it as it since the community knew, for the most part, what we were talking about. Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept. Phone - 650 485-6064 From: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss@lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss@lex-ip.com>> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:46:12 -1000 To: 'Alice Jansen' <alice.jansen@icann.org<mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org>>, <rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Chapter edits (minimalist approach employed). Seth From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:53 PM To: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC Importance: High Dear Review Team Members, As you know, your next call is scheduled for Wednesday, 2 May at 06:00 UTC (time converter:http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+RT+-+2+May+-+06%3...) Please find enclosed the agenda, also available at: https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+30+-+2+May+2012 Thanks, Kind regards Alice ----------- Tomorrow's call will be our last as a review team, and our task is to sign off the final report. If you are unable to make the call, please indicate your agreement or any comments on the executive summary and compliance chapter if you have not already done so.* 1. Executive summary - Sign off general text - Discuss outstanding proposals for amendments and reach conclusions - IDN recommendations - final text for approval. 2. Compliance chapter - Sign off general text 3. Full report (other chapters) - Report from Seth on edits (minimalist approach) - Sign off by RT 4. Steps to publication - Clean up tracked changes and combine into single document (Alice) - Final check for sense (Alice, Emily, Kathy) - Review Appendices and add new material as referenced (table showing public comments, additional Compliance documents referenced in the new chapter), and agree publication date for appendices (proposal - 11 May) 5. AOB and vote of thanks for ICANN staff support. ------------- * To date, received from Bill, Kathy, Peter and Susan. -- Alice Jansen Organizational Reviews Manager 6 Rond Point Schuman, Bt.5 B-1040 Brussels Belgium Direct dial: +32 2 234 78 64 Mobile: +32 4 73 31 76 56 Skype: alice_jansen_icann _______________________________________________Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois ________________________________ [SMR1]Crocker asks for a definition here. [Sk2]In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. 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And to me, thank you Susan On 2 May 2012 20:25, Susan Kawaguchi <susank@fb.com> wrote:
Hello All,
I have quickly reviewed the chapter edits and insertion of Steve Crocker's comments. The only comments I have relate to page 26 · Data accuracy – In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the “NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10”). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records were fully accurate [SMR1] <#1370f04c73898cbb__msocom_1> and over 20% were completely inaccurate. The[Sk2] <#1370f04c73898cbb__msocom_2> low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation’s priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy. ------------------------------
[SMR1] <#1370f04c73898cbb__msoanchor_1>Crocker asks for a definition here.****
[Sk2] <#1370f04c73898cbb__msoanchor_2>In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. ****
*No Failure* Met all three criteria fully – deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview****
Full failure – Failed on all criteria – undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview ****
In the corresponding recommendation we changed the terms to those defined in the NORC study. Do we want to use that vocabulary here along with the definitions from the NORC study or leave this paragraph as it is. ****
*No Failure* Met all three criteria fully – deliverable address, name linked to address, and registrant confrimed ownership and correctness of all details during interview****
*Full failure* – Failed on all criteria – undeliverable address and unlinkable, missing, or patently false name, unable to locate to interview ****
I have suggested a revision below in yellow.
Data accuracy – In 2009-10, ICANN commissioned a study on data accuracy, which was undertaken by the National Opinion Research Council of the University of Chicago (NORC) (the “NORC WHOIS Data Accuracy Study 2009/10”). The study found that only 23% of WHOIS records met the study's criteria for No Failure and over 20% were categorized as Full Failure. The[<#1370f04c73898cbb__msocom_2>low level of accurate WHOIS data is unacceptable, and decreases consumer trust in the WHOIS, in the industry of which ICANN is a quasi-regulator, and therefore in ICANN itself. The organisation’s priority in relation to WHOIS should be to improve WHOIS data accuracy and sustain improvement over time. It should develop a methodology to measure overall accuracy, publish performance targets, and actively collaborate with registrars and registrants to improve data accuracy.
I am open to changing it to something similar to what I have suggested or leaving it as it since the community knew, for the most part, what we were talking about.
Susan Kawaguchi Domain Name Manager Facebook Legal Dept.
Phone - 650 485-6064
From: Seth M Reiss <seth.reiss@lex-ip.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 19:46:12 -1000 To: 'Alice Jansen' <alice.jansen@icann.org>, <rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC
Chapter edits (minimalist approach employed).****
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Seth****
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*From:* rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org<rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Alice Jansen *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2012 11:53 PM *To:* rt4-whois@icann.org *Subject:* [Rt4-whois] Agenda - call on 2 May - 06:00 UTC *Importance:* High****
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Dear Review Team Members,****
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As you know, your next call is scheduled for Wednesday, 2 May at 06:00 UTC (time converter:* http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=WHOIS+RT+-+2+May+-+06%3... *)****
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Please find enclosed the agenda, also available at: * * https://community.icann.org/display/whoisreview/Call+30+-+2+May+2012 ****
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Thanks,****
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Kind regards****
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Tomorrow's call will be our last as a review team, and our task is to sign off the final report. If you are unable to make the call, please indicate your agreement or any comments on the executive summary and compliance chapter if you have not already done so.*****
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1. Executive summary****
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- Sign off general text****
- Discuss outstanding proposals for amendments and reach conclusions****
- IDN recommendations - final text for approval.****
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2. Compliance chapter****
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- Sign off general text****
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3. Full report (other chapters)****
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- Report from Seth on edits (minimalist approach)****
- Sign off by RT****
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4. Steps to publication****
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- Clean up tracked changes and combine into single document (Alice)****
- Final check for sense (Alice, Emily, Kathy)****
- Review Appendices and add new material as referenced (table showing public comments, additional Compliance documents referenced in the new chapter), and agree publication date for appendices (proposal - 11 May)*** *
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5. AOB and vote of thanks for ICANN staff support.****
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