Bill - Thanks for bringing this point up. Given that we're all volunteers, it would indeed seem cruel for us also to have to join calls in the middle of the night! Perhaps we could all fill in this doodle poll on the assumption that you make (ie nothing earlier than 6 am or later than 11pm local time), and if possible ask the staff to keep these timings in mind when scheduling future meetings. Kind regards Emily On 11 Nov 2010, at 18:10, Smith, Bill wrote:

I *really* appreciate the work that the ICANN staff is doing in support of our Review Team.

I’d like to repeat a request I made earlier, that we schedule our calls at reasonable times for all. I believe that is possible given our geographic dispersion. If I’ve done my timezone math correctly, we have a timezone span of some 13-14 hours, using our “home” countries for this calculation.

I’d like to suggest that no call commence before 06:00 for any of us and similarly end before 23:00 for all of us. If we adopt this as a “policy”, I believe we have a 3-4 hour window in which to have calls. The “range” of calls would be early morning on the US West Coast, early afternoon in London, and evening in Pakistan.

Why do I bring this up? The current doodle poll is asking that US West Coast members select between 02:00, 03:00, 04:00, 05:00, and 06:00 (local time) as the starting time for our next teleconference. While the 03:00 – 0:500 (US Pacific) times may be more convenient for some, they are especially uncomfortable to others.

Can we agree to the nothing earlier than 06:00 or later than 23:00 for all of us? If not, why not?

From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:41 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: [Rt4-whois] next Conference Call - Doodle poll Importance: High

Dear Review Team Members,

With a view to selecting the most convenient time for the next conference call, please complete this doodle poll by Thursday, 18 November: http://doodle.com/cuas5z36ivni5iuf

Thank you,

Very best regards

Alice

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It's entirely possible this was an oversight. I know I make lots of errors when it comes to timezones. From: Kim G. von Arx [mailto:kim@vonarx.ca] Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:18 AM To: Smith, Bill Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] next Conference Call - Doodle poll I have to agree with Bill on this. We are, after all, volunteers and do NOT get paid unlike the ICANN staff. Kim On 11 Nov 2010, at 13:10, Smith, Bill wrote: I *really* appreciate the work that the ICANN staff is doing in support of our Review Team. I'd like to repeat a request I made earlier, that we schedule our calls at reasonable times for all. I believe that is possible given our geographic dispersion. If I've done my timezone math correctly, we have a timezone span of some 13-14 hours, using our "home" countries for this calculation. I'd like to suggest that no call commence before 06:00 for any of us and similarly end before 23:00 for all of us. If we adopt this as a "policy", I believe we have a 3-4 hour window in which to have calls. The "range" of calls would be early morning on the US West Coast, early afternoon in London, and evening in Pakistan. Why do I bring this up? The current doodle poll is asking that US West Coast members select between 02:00, 03:00, 04:00, 05:00, and 06:00 (local time) as the starting time for our next teleconference. While the 03:00 - 0:500 (US Pacific) times may be more convenient for some, they are especially uncomfortable to others. Can we agree to the nothing earlier than 06:00 or later than 23:00 for all of us? If not, why not? From: rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org> [mailto:rt4-whois-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Alice Jansen Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:41 AM To: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> Subject: [Rt4-whois] next Conference Call - Doodle poll Importance: High Dear Review Team Members, With a view to selecting the most convenient time for the next conference call, please complete this doodle poll by Thursday, 18 November: http://doodle.com/cuas5z36ivni5iuf Thank you, Very best regards Alice Alice E. Jansen -------------------------- ICANN Assistant, Organizational & Affirmation Reviews alice.jansen@icann.org<mailto:alice.jansen@icann.org> Direct Dial: +32.2.234.78.64 Mobile: +32.4.73.31.76.56 Office Fax: +32.2.234.78.48 Skype: alice_jansen_icann -------------------------- 6, Rond Point Schuman B-1040 Brussels, Belgium _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois

Smith, Bill wrote: [...]

Can we agree to the nothing earlier than 06:00 or later than 23:00 for all of us? If not, why not?

I *do* know that we have some members from across Europe, so please read with a grain of salt applied. :-) Personally, *I* am fine with calls extending into midnight or even till 01:00 or 02:00 local time, rather than commencing at 06:00 in the morning, local time. Some of us may understand the word "Morgen Grauen". I do know, I am a late evening / late night person ;-) You may want do press "delete" right now.... Wilfried.