So the eCommerce Industry should reimburse ICANN? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] NORC Study cost From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> Date: Mar 14, 2012 18:18 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> CC: denise.michel@icann.org,rt4-whois@icann.org Agreed... but it's a small amount if it manages to reduce the 2-3 billion dollars of e-commerce fraud that Visa projected in its presentation at the RAA update/WHOIS Verification Workshop on Monday. On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:29 PM, James M. Bladel wrote: Thanks, Denise. IMHO, that's a pretty significant expense on an annual basis. J. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: NORC Study cost From: Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org><mailto:denise.michel@icann.org>> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:15 pm To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com><mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org> The NORC Accuracy Study involved a sample size of 1000 registrations, and cost ICANN approximately US$200,000. Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President & CEO denise.michel@icann.org<mailto:denise.michel@icann.org> +1.408.429.3072<tel:+1.408.429.3072> mobile +1.310.578.8632<tel:+1.310.578.8632> direct _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
That seems reasonable to me! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:58 PM, "jbladel@godaddy.com" <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
So the eCommerce Industry should reimburse ICANN?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] NORC Study cost From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> Date: Mar 14, 2012 18:18 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> CC: denise.michel@icann.org,rt4-whois@icann.org
Agreed... but it's a small amount if it manages to reduce the 2-3 billion dollars of e-commerce fraud that Visa projected in its presentation at the RAA update/WHOIS Verification Workshop on Monday.
On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:29 PM, James M. Bladel wrote:
Thanks, Denise. IMHO, that's a pretty significant expense on an annual basis.
J.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: NORC Study cost From: Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org><mailto:denise.michel@icann.org>> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:15 pm To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com><mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>
The NORC Accuracy Study involved a sample size of 1000 registrations, and cost ICANN approximately US$200,000.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President & CEO denise.michel@icann.org<mailto:denise.michel@icann.org> +1.408.429.3072<tel:+1.408.429.3072> mobile +1.310.578.8632<tel:+1.310.578.8632> direct _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
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Probably happy to pay $200,000 a year to get Whois cleaned up, perhaps more. On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:58 PM, <jbladel@godaddy.com> <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
So the eCommerce Industry should reimburse ICANN?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] NORC Study cost From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> Date: Mar 14, 2012 18:18 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> CC: denise.michel@icann.org,rt4-whois@icann.org
Agreed... but it's a small amount if it manages to reduce the 2-3 billion dollars of e-commerce fraud that Visa projected in its presentation at the RAA update/WHOIS Verification Workshop on Monday.
On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:29 PM, James M. Bladel wrote:
Thanks, Denise. IMHO, that's a pretty significant expense on an annual basis.
J.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: NORC Study cost From: Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org><mailto:denise.michel@icann.org>> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:15 pm To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com><mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>
The NORC Accuracy Study involved a sample size of 1000 registrations, and cost ICANN approximately US$200,000.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President & CEO denise.michel@icann.org<mailto:denise.michel@icann.org> +1.408.429.3072<tel:+1.408.429.3072> mobile +1.310.578.8632<tel:+1.310.578.8632> direct _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
Dear Team members, A correction: the 2009 NORC study involved a sample size of 1400 (rather than 1000). Since some Team members seemed interested, Staff did some inquiries. The annual cost of such a study likely would be moderately less if the previous methodology and sample design were maintained. It is estimated that most of the accuracy study recurring cost is calling registrants for verification, and at least one-third of the original study cost was establishing a methodology and sample design. So a very rough, informal estimate of repeating the study for 1000 domains is about US$110,000. Please let me know if you need additional information. Regards, Denise Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President & CEO denise.michel@icann.org +1.408.429.3072 mobile +1.310.578.8632 direct On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Smith, Bill <bill.smith@paypal-inc.com>wrote:
Probably happy to pay $200,000 a year to get Whois cleaned up, perhaps more.
On Mar 14, 2012, at 6:58 PM, <jbladel@godaddy.com> <jbladel@godaddy.com> wrote:
So the eCommerce Industry should reimburse ICANN?
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] NORC Study cost From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@paypal-inc.com> Date: Mar 14, 2012 18:18 To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com> CC: denise.michel@icann.org,rt4-whois@icann.org
Agreed... but it's a small amount if it manages to reduce the 2-3 billion dollars of e-commerce fraud that Visa projected in its presentation at the RAA update/WHOIS Verification Workshop on Monday.
On Mar 14, 2012, at 2:29 PM, James M. Bladel wrote:
Thanks, Denise. IMHO, that's a pretty significant expense on an annual basis.
J.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: NORC Study cost From: Denise Michel <denise.michel@icann.org><mailto: denise.michel@icann.org>> Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 3:15 pm To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@godaddy.com><mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com>> Cc: rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois@icann.org>
The NORC Accuracy Study involved a sample size of 1000 registrations, and cost ICANN approximately US$200,000.
Denise Michel ICANN Advisor to the President & CEO denise.michel@icann.org<mailto:denise.michel@icann.org> +1.408.429.3072<tel:+1.408.429.3072> mobile +1.310.578.8632<tel:+1.310.578.8632> direct _______________________________________________ Rt4-whois mailing list Rt4-whois@icann.org<mailto:Rt4-whois@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/rt4-whois
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:44:22PM -0600, Denise Michel wrote:
So a very rough, informal estimate of repeating the study for 1000 domains is about US$110,000.
It seems still a very high price for the investigation. Regular market should not exceed about US$2500 per day for this type of consulting. Simple arithmetics results to 45 days of work or 22 checked domains per day or 160 minutes per domain. Given the outcome of the study, there is a huge mismatch between printed version and expectations. At least my "non professional" point of view.
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