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Re: [SSAC-Evo-Reso-WP] Evolution of DNS Resolution Work Party Meeting Notes September 8, 2022
by Barry Leiba Sept. 15, 2022

Sept. 15, 2022

DNS Evo work party: I'm sending Andrew's summary of today's call to the work party list in order to highlight two things: 1. The work party will not meet for the next *three weeks*, as those going to KL will be travelling next week, we have the ICANN meeting the week after, and we have the "post-ICANN break" the week after that. So our next meeting will be 6 Oct. 2. We hope we can still make progress on the document over the next three weeks and be prepared for a good discussion on the 6th. To that end, homework includes: - Read, digest, and edit/comment on the text that Andrew has put into Section 6.1. He will very soon be updating that, so give it a few days before you dive in. - Look at the additional perspectives in Section 6 and work on fleshing them out. Please liberally add text, either as notes or (even better) as complete paragraphs. It would be really nice to have something more plump and juicy to read and discuss, and to see the document taking more shape. The active document is this one: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_eOj_csXgOi3hzkobsY6SgA7b4CcMPhTLKvQ_8F… Note that if you have an old link you'll be pointing to an old document (but it will clearly tell you that). Thanks, Barry On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 6:11 PM Andrew McConachie <andrew.mcconachie(a)icann.org> wrote: > > Dear SSAC Members, > > Here are the notes from today’s Evolution of DNS Resolution Work Party meeting. September 8, 2022. > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/18zPkRowK9XVeNLkrPttI5ydTHMPZCKIeC-Wuj57…> > > _Actions_ > -Andrew to update text in Section 6.1 based on conversations > -Work party members to add more perspectives if possible > -Work party members to review Andrew’s new 6.1 once he’s updated it > > Working Document > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_eOj_csXgOi3hzkobsY6SgA7b4CcMPhTLKvQ_8F…> > > Thanks, > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > SSAC mailing list > SSAC(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssac > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 8 Sep 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Sept. 6, 2022

Sept. 6, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 8 Sep 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 1 Sep 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Sept. 6, 2022

Sept. 6, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 1 Sep 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 25 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Aug. 30, 2022

Aug. 30, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 25 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 25 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Aug. 23, 2022

Aug. 23, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 25 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 18 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Aug. 12, 2022

Aug. 12, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 18 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 4 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt Aug. 12, 2022

Aug. 12, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 4 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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OCTO's Emerging Identifiers Technology Sessions
by Andrew McConachie Aug. 4, 2022

Aug. 4, 2022

Dear SSAC Members, Barry and I dug a bit more into OCTO’s initiative to host sessions at ICANN meetings on Emerging Identifier Technology. There have been four of these sessions so far. ICANN 58 (Copenhagen) <https://icann58copenhagen2017.sched.com/event/9nqD/emerging-identifiers-tec… <https://icann58copenhagen2017.sched.com/event/9nqD/emerging-identifiers-tec…>> ICANN 60 (Abu Dhabi) <https://icann60abudhabi2017.sched.com/event/CbFe/emerging-identifiers-techn… <https://icann60abudhabi2017.sched.com/event/CbFe/emerging-identifiers-techn…>> ICANN 64 (Kobe) <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/voFNz6xkF2AotyWBh <https://64.schedule.icann.org/meetings/voFNz6xkF2AotyWBh>> ICANN 66 (Montreal) <https://66.schedule.icann.org/meetings/NgGWYgp7jtE7Q2s8S <https://66.schedule.icann.org/meetings/NgGWYgp7jtE7Q2s8S>> I reached out to Adiel Akplogan who organizes these and he said OCTO will be doing this again at ICANN 75 in Kuala Lumpur. OCTO is planning on regularly hosting a sesion at ICANN meetings once a year on this topic. I don’t have any information on the session for ICANN 75 yet. —Andrew

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Transcription from our meeting held on 21 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt July 26, 2022

July 26, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 21 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 4 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt July 25, 2022

July 25, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 4 Aug 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Unstoppable sues Gateway.io over .WALLET
by Andrew McConachie July 21, 2022

July 21, 2022

I expect this to be interesting to the work party given our recent conversations. Unstoppable sues Gateway.io over .WALLET <https://domainnamewire.com/2022/07/20/update-unstoppable-domains-sues-over-… <https://domainnamewire.com/2022/07/20/update-unstoppable-domains-sues-over-…>> Federal Lawsuit <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.79507/gov.uscourts… <https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ded.79507/gov.uscourts…>> Thanks, Andrew

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 21 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt July 15, 2022

July 15, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 21 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 14 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt July 13, 2022

July 13, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 14 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Fwd: [SSAC] Evolution of DNS Resolution Work Party Meeting Notes July 7, 2022
by Andrew McConachie July 8, 2022

July 8, 2022

Dear SSAC Members, I drafted a new recommendation in the strawman recommendations document based on the work party conversation yesterday. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I…>> The new recommendation is in Option 3. I also reorganized the document so it would be easier to read. There are now specific numbered options which include sets of recommendations. Please review and comment as you see fit. Thanks, Andrew > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Andrew McConachie <andrew.mcconachie(a)icann.org> > Subject: [SSAC] Evolution of DNS Resolution Work Party Meeting Notes July 7, 2022 > Date: 7 July 2022 at 23:50:39 CEST > To: SSAC <ssac(a)icann.org> > > Dear SSAC Members, > > Here are the notes from today’s Evolution of DNS Resolution Work Party meeting. July 7, 2022. > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HhwmzL6kfWX1fQ-h9tetLhXZTA9wFAgBKWnCegP… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1HhwmzL6kfWX1fQ-h9tetLhXZTA9wFAgBKWnCegP…>> > > _Actions_ > -Andrew to write a third set of strawman recommendations based on today’s call > > Strawman Recommendations > <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I…>> > > Thanks, > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > SSAC mailing list > SSAC(a)icann.org > https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ssac > > _______________________________________________ > By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos) You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 7 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt July 7, 2022

July 7, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 7 Jul 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Today's Meeting Cancelled
by Andrew McConachie June 30, 2022

June 30, 2022

Dear SSAC Members, Only Barry, Tara, Kathy and I were able to make the work party meeting today. We hung out for 5 minutes, but more did not join. So the meeting today is cancelled. For next week’s meeting please review both sets of strawman recommendations. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I…>> Thanks, Andrew

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 30 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt June 28, 2022

June 28, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 30 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 9 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt June 27, 2022

June 27, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 9 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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SSAC Evo of the Reso Strawman Recommendations
by Andrew McConachie June 27, 2022

June 27, 2022

Dear SSAC Members. I drafted a second set of strawman recommendation for discussion at our next WP meeting. There are now two sets of strawman recommendations in this document along with a question to the work party. <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I… <https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TXGbjOoKtOk1OvHT7GaXDu1QqjMw33OySWgeJ-I…>> Talk to everyone on Thursday. —Andrew

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Fwd: Testing DDR with macOS and iOS
by Russ Housley June 11, 2022

June 11, 2022

This posting to the IETD ADD WG mail list seems relevant to the discussion we had on last Thursday. Russ > From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com(a)dmarc.ietf.org> > Subject: [Add] Testing DDR with macOS and iOS > Date: June 10, 2022 at 6:56:58 PM EDT > To: ADD Mailing list <add(a)ietf.org> > > Hi ADD, > > With the betas of iOS 16 and macOS Ventura, DDR is supported by default (no need to manually enable!). Please feel free to download these and give them a try. > > This is also covered in this WWDC video: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10079/ <https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2022/10079/> > > Best, > Tommy > >> On Feb 23, 2022, at 9:52 AM, Tommy Pauly <tpauly=40apple.com(a)dmarc.ietf.org <mailto:tpauly=40apple.com@dmarc.ietf.org>> wrote: >> >> Hello ADD, >> >> I wanted to share with the group, for anyone who’s trying to bring up Discovery of Designated Resolvers (DDR, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-ddr/ <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-add-ddr/>) on their resolvers, that there is now a way to test this functionality with the current beta of macOS 12.3 <https://developer.apple.com/news/releases/?id=02152022e>. This is not enabled by default, but is a developer option. >> >> In Terminal, you can run the following commands: >> >> sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.networkd enable_ddr -int 1 >> sudo killall -9 mDNSResponder >> >> The client will then start issuing SVCB queries for _dns.resolver.arpa, and using the results to verify resolvers and upgrade to encrypted DNS, either DoT or DoH. >> >> Hopefully this can be a useful tool to you! >> >> Best, >> Tommy >> >> -- >> Add mailing list >> Add(a)ietf.org <mailto:Add@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/add > > -- > Add mailing list > Add(a)ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/add

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 30 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt June 9, 2022

June 9, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 30 Jun 2022 21:00. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 26 May 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 26 May 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 2 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt June 2, 2022

June 2, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 2 Jun 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Our next SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party meeting is scheduled for 26 May 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt May 26, 2022

May 26, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Our next work party meeting is scheduled for Thursday, 26 May 2022 21:00 UTC. Work Party Links: Working Document: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_XScjUX5mfLDYJbgLoZ_ij0P33ogZDKLHvz1YMM… Work Party Wiki: https://community.icann.org/display/ssac/Evolution+of+DNS+Resolution+Work+P… Participation Links: Zoom Link: https://icann.zoom.us/j/97476530959?pwd=MTRuMTRSWGE0a1NFa2gxK3poZG95UT09Zoom Session ID: 974 7653 0959Zoom Session Passcode: 22!evoresoZoom International Dial-In Numbers: https://icann.zoom.us/u/admcoUDTY7Zoom Phone Passcode: 494 0509 010SSAC 2022 Calendar: https://calendar.google.com/calendar/ical/icann.ssac.calendar%40gmail.com/p… Best, Kathy

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Transcription from our meeting held on 19 May 2022 21:00 UTC
by Kathy Schnitt May 26, 2022

May 26, 2022

Dear SSAC Evo of Reso Work Party, Attached is the transcription from our meeting held on 19 May 2022 21:00 UTC. Best, Kathy

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