Thank you all. I have read through the comments as well as the document. Taking all the inputs, I proposed the following text:

Original text:

Recommendation 1: The SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to track and provide regular updates to the ICANN Board and community on both alternative protocols that make use of the domain namespace, and efforts to create mitigations and reduce risks inherent in the coexistence of multiple namespaces and protocols.

Recommendation 2: The SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to encourage collaboration and facilitate coordination among the various namespace communities.

Proposed text:

The SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to keep the ICANN community abreast of new developments through such means as the Emerging Identifier Technologies panels that have been presented at a number of ICANN meetings.

Recommendation 2: In order to mitigate the potential harms of collisions between namespaces used by alternative name systems and the DNS, the SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to facilitate coordination between the various alternative namespace communities and the namespace used by the DNS."

Please let me know if you are ok or have any objections to this proposal.

Best

Steve

On 12/11/23, 5:17 PM, "SSAC-Evo-Reso-WP on behalf of Geoff Huston" <ssac-evo-reso-wp-bounces@icann.org <mailto:ssac-evo-reso-wp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of gih902@gmail.com <mailto:gih902@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Now, we did discuss this at length, and I believe it was the

> referenced EIT panels that we were talking about. Paul is very clear

> that those panels were *not* meant to be any sort of forum for

> collaboration, and were *only* to inform the community.

> Given his comment on this, I agree that we should reconsider

> recommendation 2, with, as I see it, two likely outcomes:

> 1. We simply remove the recommendation.

> 2. We change the wording to refer more directly to the Emerging

> Identifier Technologies panels, and say something like, "The SSAC

> recommends that the ICANN organization continue to keep the ICANN

> community abreast of new developments through such means as the

> Emerging Identifier Technologies panels that have been presented at a

> number of ICANN meetings."

> If we choose path 2, we need to consider whether it's a separate

> recommendation or gets subsumed into recommendation 1, which already

> says, "The SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to

> track and provide regular updates to the ICANN Board and community on

> both alternative protocols that make use of the domain namespace, and

> efforts to create mitigations and reduce risks inherent in the

> coexistence of multiple namespaces and protocols."

> I'd like to try to get this resolved this week by email, rather than

> having another work party call, so let's please have a discussion here

> on the work party mailing list.

> Thoughts?

It all depends on how you read the recommendation - without a doubt name space collisions across these various alternative name spaces and the DNS exist and the recent efforts to mitigate the user impact of such collision's by carving out a part of the namespace is to my mind an example of such an effort at coordination between the DNA and alternative name systems.

We could simply make this more DNS-centric and say:

"In order to mitigate the potential harms of collisions between namespaces used by alternative name systems and the DNS, the SSAC recommends that the ICANN organization continue to encourage facilitate coordination between the various alternaive namespace communities and the namespace used by the DNS."

i.e. we have little to say if they talk to each other, but we prefer that to reduce collisions that they talk with the DNS folk.

Geoff

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