Dear James I raised similar suggestions in one of the subgroup meetings and I would support placing it on the Agenda for the next online plenary meeting to discuss. Sincerely, Kerry-Ann Barrett Cyber Security Policy Specialist Inter-American Committee against Terrorism Secretariat for Multidimensional Security Organization of American States 1889 F Street N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006 T. 202-370-4675 F. 202-458-3857 kabarrett@oas.org www.oas.org/cyber Register to our distribution list here! -----Original Message----- From: ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of James Gannon Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:46 AM To: ssr2-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] [EXT] Re: Abu Dhabi meeting dates Hi All, Just back from vacation and thinking about this further, Can I make the suggestion that a single days meeting or one day either side of the meeting will give us very little time to work through any issues and indeed a split time across the meeting will also be unideal. I want to throw out the following suggestions for people to consider: - Would there me more value is the plenary meeting at the ICANN hub in Singapore or Los Angeles in mid-November where we will hopefully have a more substantial slate of topics, people available and be able to meet for a number of consecutive days together to really get progress on our topics? - We could also 'reallocate' some of the funding that we may have used to bring everyone to Abu Dhabi for a single day to supporting the subgroups requests for face to face meeting, as we see that many of the sub teams are really progressing on work items this may be a better use of the funds of the review team I personally feel that both of these options give us a much better change of being ready to finalise our draft report in January at our plenary meeting. I would really value others input into this, and how people feel that we as the review team would gain the best value from our time and resources. -James -----Original Message----- From: ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Barrett, Kerry-Ann Sent: 03 August 2017 23:19 To: 'Boban Krsic' <krsic@denic.de>; ssr2-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] [EXT] Re: Abu Dhabi meeting dates Dear Jennifer I will not be able to attend as indicated in the chat given my office has internal commitments the same dates. Sincerely, Kerry-Ann Barrett Cyber Security Policy Specialist Inter-American Committee against Terrorism Secretariat for Multidimensional Security Organization of American States 1889 F Street N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006 T. 202-370-4675 F. 202-458-3857 kabarrett@oas.org www.oas.org/cyber Register to our distribution list here! -----Original Message----- From: ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Boban Krsic Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:52 AM To: ssr2-review@icann.org Subject: [EXT] Re: [Ssr2-review] Abu Dhabi meeting dates Dear Jennifer, all, Am 02.08.17 um 10:32 schrieb Jennifer Bryce:

Dear all,

As discussed on yesterday’s call, below are the options for the full SSR2 Review Team to meet in Abu Dhabi. Please email staff off-list with your preference by 15:00 UTC on Thursday, 3 August.

1. Friday October 27th only

My personal preference - my trip to the Emirates will start with RIPE 75 (Dubai from 22 - 26 October) and hopefully ends with the penultimate day of the ICANN meeting on Wednesday November 1st. - Boban.

2. Friday November 3rd only 3. Friday October 27th and Friday November 3rd

Thanks, Jennifer

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James, all, Am 07.08.17 um 15:45 schrieb James Gannon:

Hi All, Just back from vacation and thinking about this further, Can I make the suggestion that a single days meeting or one day either side of the meeting will give us very little time to work through any issues and indeed a split time across the meeting will also be unideal.

I want to throw out the following suggestions for people to consider:

- Would there me more value is the plenary meeting at the ICANN hub in Singapore or Los Angeles in mid-November where we will hopefully have a more substantial slate of topics, people available and be able to meet for a number of consecutive days together to really get progress on our topics?

- We could also 'reallocate' some of the funding that we may have used to bring everyone to Abu Dhabi for a single day to supporting the subgroups requests for face to face meeting, as we see that many of the sub teams are really progressing on work items this may be a better use of the funds of the review team

I personally feel that both of these options give us a much better change of being ready to finalise our draft report in January at our plenary meeting. I would really value others input into this, and how people feel that we as the review team would gain the best value from our time and resources.

I would say it depends ;-) As a friend of efficient and goal-oriented meetings I totally agree with you James, that a one day meeting will give us a very limited time to work as a whole group through any issues. That's why we discussed this issue in our last sub-group call and decided to plan a dedicated subtopic workshop on ICANN SSR with a smaller group. My personal view on this: Only with a clear goal, defined deliverables and committed resources (from both sides) - a plenary meeting in mid-November (my preference, directly after IETF 100 November 11-17, 2017 in Singapore) could (hopefully) help to really get progress on our topics. - Boban.

-James

-----Original Message----- From: ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Barrett, Kerry-Ann Sent: 03 August 2017 23:19 To: 'Boban Krsic' <krsic@denic.de>; ssr2-review@icann.org Subject: Re: [Ssr2-review] [EXT] Re: Abu Dhabi meeting dates

Dear Jennifer

I will not be able to attend as indicated in the chat given my office has internal commitments the same dates.

Sincerely, Kerry-Ann Barrett Cyber Security Policy Specialist Inter-American Committee against Terrorism Secretariat for Multidimensional Security Organization of American States 1889 F Street N.W., Washington, D.C. 20006 T. 202-370-4675 F. 202-458-3857 kabarrett@oas.org www.oas.org/cyber Register to our distribution list here!

-----Original Message----- From: ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ssr2-review-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Boban Krsic Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:52 AM To: ssr2-review@icann.org Subject: [EXT] Re: [Ssr2-review] Abu Dhabi meeting dates

Dear Jennifer, all,

Am 02.08.17 um 10:32 schrieb Jennifer Bryce:

...

Dear all,

As discussed on yesterday’s call, below are the options for the full SSR2 Review Team to meet in Abu Dhabi. Please email staff off-list with your preference by 15:00 UTC on Thursday, 3 August.

1. Friday October 27th only

My personal preference - my trip to the Emirates will start with RIPE 75 (Dubai from 22 - 26 October) and hopefully ends with the penultimate day of the ICANN meeting on Wednesday November 1st.

- Boban.

...

2. Friday November 3rd only 3. Friday October 27th and Friday November 3rd

Thanks, Jennifer

-- Jennifer Bryce Senior Reviews Coordinator Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)

Email: jennifer.bryce@icann.org Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann www.icann.org

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-- Boban Kršić Chief Information Security Officer DENIC eG, Kaiserstraße 75-77, 60329 Frankfurt am Main, GERMANY E-Mail: krsic@denic.de, Fon: +49 69 272 35-120, Fax: -248 Mobil: +49 172 67 61 671 https://www.denic.de X.509 Key-ID: 00A54FCB79884413A4 Fingerprint: 9D37 F593 AF9A D766 FAB4 8B88 D49A 2716 PGP Key-ID: 0x43C89BA9 Fingerprint: B974 E725 FEF7 CB3A E452 BEE0 5B80 73E9 43C8 9BA9 Angaben nach § 25a Absatz 1 GenG: DENIC eG (Sitz: Frankfurt am Main) Vorstand: Helga Krüger, Martin Küchenthal, Andreas Musielak, Dr. Jörg Schweiger Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Thomas Keller Eingetragen unter Nr. 770 im Genossenschaftsregister, Amtsgericht Frankfurt am Main