Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024
Thank you Renate, In the slide 6, it’s written: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported: In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. This will read for the 3rd bullet point: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. To be more accurate, I propose to modify it in that way: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot in any of the past two years, have reported: o In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement o In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets be majority owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. Tijani De : Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Date : mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 08:50 À : "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Dear All, The recordings for Meeting #21 of the SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track held on Monday, 15 July 2024 at 17:00-18:00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page. These include: Attendance Audio recording Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archive. Best regards, Renate _______________________________________________ Subpro-irt-asp mailing list Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/subpro-irt-asp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi all, Sorry to have missed yesterday's meeting. I did get a chance to review the Zoom however. I have the following comments/questions: 1. It looks as though Tijani's comment below does not change the substance but is more related to grammar/clarifying language. However, I noted Phil Buckingham's comments in the chat yesterday regarding a proposal for language around "controlling interest" and certainly agree that this bears further consideration as the "litmus test" for control. 2. With respect to the disclosure requirement in relation to any entity that has a 15% or more interest in the Applicant Support applicant, it seems to me that this disclosure requirement should be extended through to the new gTLD application process and beyond up until the time the qualified ASP applicant is no longer required to prevent any transfer of a controlling interest. 3. Regarding the linking to the ASP Terms and Conditions page that is inserted in the draft Handbook, do we have any hope of making sure that the Terms and conditions are actually final BEFORE the November 19 opening of the program? Of course it would be preferable for the Terms and Conditions to be final before the Handbook is published so that applicants and their governing bodies could review these before going to all the effort of applying. This is particularly important given the fact that there will be a premium on getting an application in early in the window. *How soon can the ASP SubTrack get a proposed set of Terms and Conditions?* Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Tue, Jul 16, 2024 at 3:23 AM Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
Thank you Renate,
In the slide 6, it’s written:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported:
- In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement - In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets - The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
This will read for the 3rd bullet point:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
To be more accurate, I propose to modify it in that way:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot
- in any of the past two years, have reported:
o In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement
o In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets
- be majority owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
Tijani
*De : *Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> *Date : *mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 08:50 *À : *"subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> *Objet : *[Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024
Dear All,
The recordings for Meeting #21
of the SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track held on Monday, 15 July 2024 at 17:00-18: 00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/EQANFQ>.
These include:
- Attendance - Audio recording - Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat)
For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archive <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/subpro-irt-asp/>.
Best regards,
Renate
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Dear Tijani and all, Many thanks for the suggested wording clarification. It may be helpful to discuss this today on the call. The term "majority" means 50% or more ownership and control. So, even if we remove the percentage, this is how the evaluator will interpret this indicator. It may be clearer to the applicant and to the evaluator if we are more specific with "50% or more" but let's discuss today. Talk to you all soon. Kind regards, Kristy ________________________________ From: Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 3:22 To: Next Round Policy Implementation; subpro-irt-asp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Thank you Renate, In the slide 6, it’s written: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported: * In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement * In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets * The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. This will read for the 3rd bullet point: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. To be more accurate, I propose to modify it in that way: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot * in any of the past two years, have reported: o In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement o In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets * be majority owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. Tijani De : Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Date : mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 08:50 À : "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Dear All, The recordings for Meeting #21 of the SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track held on Monday, 15 July 2024 at 17:00-18:00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page<https://community.icann.org/x/EQANFQ>. These include: * Attendance * Audio recording * Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archive<https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/subpro-irt-asp/>. Best regards, Renate _______________________________________________ Subpro-irt-asp mailing list Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/subpro-irt-asp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
No Kristy, my suggestion is not about the wording of “majority” replacing “51% or more”. It’s about the 3rd bullet meaning in the form you provided. In fact, you say “To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported: In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. What I propose is to change it to the following: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot in any of the past two years, have reported: In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. I hope it’s clearer now De : Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org> Date : mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 14:46 À : Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>, Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org>, "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Dear Tijani and all, Many thanks for the suggested wording clarification. It may be helpful to discuss this today on the call. The term "majority" means 50% or more ownership and control. So, even if we remove the percentage, this is how the evaluator will interpret this indicator. It may be clearer to the applicant and to the evaluator if we are more specific with "50% or more" but let's discuss today. Talk to you all soon. Kind regards, Kristy From: Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 3:22 To: Next Round Policy Implementation; subpro-irt-asp@icann.org Subject: Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Thank you Renate, In the slide 6, it’s written: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported: In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. This will read for the 3rd bullet point: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. To be more accurate, I propose to modify it in that way: To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot in any of the past two years, have reported: o In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement o In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets be majority owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria. Tijani De : Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Date : mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 08:50 À : "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024 Dear All, The recordings for Meeting #21 of the SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track held on Monday, 15 July 2024 at 17:00-18:00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page. These include: Attendance Audio recording Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat) For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archive. Best regards, Renate _______________________________________________ Subpro-irt-asp mailing list Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/subpro-irt-asp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
+1 Tijani, with further text pending from Greg with regards to "control" as discussed. Kind regards, Justine --------- On Tue, 16 Jul 2024, 23:21 Tijani, <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote:
No Kristy, my suggestion is not about the wording of “majority” replacing “51% or more”. It’s about the 3rd bullet meaning in the form you provided.
In fact, you say “To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported:
- In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement - In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets - The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
What I propose is to change it to the following:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot
- in any of the past two years, have reported: - In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement - In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets
- be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
I hope it’s clearer now
*De : *Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org> *Date : *mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 14:46 *À : *Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn>, Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org>, " subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> *Objet : *Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024
Dear Tijani and all,
Many thanks for the suggested wording clarification.
It may be helpful to discuss this today on the call. The term "majority" means 50% or more ownership and control. So, even if we remove the percentage, this is how the evaluator will interpret this indicator.
It may be clearer to the applicant and to the evaluator if we are more specific with "50% or more" but let's discuss today. Talk to you all soon.
Kind regards,
Kristy
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*From:* Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2024 3:22 *To:* Next Round Policy Implementation; subpro-irt-asp@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024
Thank you Renate,
In the slide 6, it’s written:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported:
- In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement - In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets - The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
This will read for the 3rd bullet point:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity cannot, in any of the past two years, have reported The applying entity may not be majority 51% or more owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
To be more accurate, I propose to modify it in that way:
To be eligible for consideration, the applying entity Cannot
- in any of the past two years, have reported:
o In excess of USD $5M revenue per annum from all sources as reported in their annual profit and loss statement
o In excess of USD $5M Cash and Cash Equivalents (CCE) as reported in their financial year end balance sheets
- be majority owned or controlled by an entity that does not meet the above criteria.
Tijani
*De : *Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> *Date : *mardi 16 juillet 2024 à 08:50 *À : *"subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> *Objet : *[Subpro-irt-asp] Post-call | SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track #21 | 15 July 2024
Dear All,
The recordings for Meeting #21
of the SubPro IRT ASP Sub-Track held on Monday, 15 July 2024 at 17:00-18: 00 UTC are published on the meeting wiki page <https://community.icann.org/x/EQANFQ>.
These include:
- Attendance - Audio recording - Zoom recording (including audio, visual, rough transcript, chat)
For additional information, you may consult the mailing list archive <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/subpro-irt-asp/>.
Best regards,
Renate
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Anne ICANN -
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Tijani