Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] [Ext] Re: DRAFT ASP Handbook for ASP-IRT
Hi Kristy and all, This is to inform you that I most likely won’t attend today call being on the road at that time. I apologize. Best Tijani De : Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org> Date : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 à 00:25 À : Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>, Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann@icann.org> Cc : "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] [Ext] Re: DRAFT ASP Handbook for ASP-IRT Many thanks, Anne. Appreciate all of your thoughtful comments and this additional example of how it's defined. Kind regards, Kristy From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 2:59:23 PM To: Kristy Buckley; Lars Hoffmann Cc: subpro-irt-asp@icann.org Subject: [Ext] Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] DRAFT ASP Handbook for ASP-IRT Thanks for today's discussion on the topic of adding principal place of business on indigenous lands to 5.5.5. for small business eligibility. A note re the idea mentioned by Kristy of an "OR" clause to provide alternative proof re geography in an indigenous less-developed area is that the Constitution of Brazil defines "indigenous land" as follows: The text in force gives a constitutional category or status to the concept of indigenous lands [pib.socioambiental.org], which is defined as follows in paragraph 2 of Article 231: Lands traditionally occupied by the Indians are those that they have inhabited permanently, used for their productive activity, their welfare and necessary for their cultural and physical reproduction, according to their uses, customs and traditions." Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:41 PM Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> wrote: By way of further information, please see the UN Call to Action at the link below. In yesterday's call, I mentioned "beef cattle" as a possible use case in this category. By way of example, please consider the Native American Beef program. The Program itself might be eligible under 5.5.3 in the Handbook if it meets other requirements. However, privately-owned ranching operations on tribal lands who are micro or small businesses and who produce that beef would not be eligible under 5.5.5 as currently drafted. Some of these ranchers have plans to expand their sales beyond US borders. This is not an "edge case" and ICANN has the opportunity to take action to assist indigenous small business if we amend 5.5.5 accordingly. The advantages of a gTLD include secure transactions and creation of a distinct marketing presence. Without the ability to qualify for ASP training, Application Counseling, and fee reductions, the new gTLD program would be clearly out of reach for these small businesses. (Nothing guarantees that including them will put them within reach of operating a new gTLD but by amending 5.5.5 to include principal place of business on indigenous tribal lands (with the indigenous residents as officers requirement), we eliminate one more barrier to success. https://unsceb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/CEB-Call-to-Action-Indigenous... [unsceb.org] Given our increasingly global economy, I am sure there are potential examples in other nations outside the U.S. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:26 PM Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Kristy and all ASP subteam members, Regarding the discussion held today on Section 5.5.5 of the ASP Handbook as to "Micro or Small business from a Less-developed Economy", I propose we add an objective category to the definition of lesser developed economies, i.e. "principal place of business located on indigenous tribal lands" accompanied by the other requirements as to location of officers and ownership and control. In support of this addition, I attach the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, with special reference to Articles 20 and 32, as well as Article 39 which refers to " access to financial and technical assistance... through international cooperation". In this regard, I believe that leaving out the ability for micro or small businesses principally located on tribal lands under this basis for qualification for the ASP Program would not be consistent with ICANN's Human Rights Core Value. The Less-developed Economy basis for micro or small business is a separate basis from 5.5.4 social impact or public benefit and is separate from 5.5.3 tribal people's organization with a demonstrated Consent Form. We should be acknowledging, in accordance with the attachment, that indigenous tribal economies all over the world are less-developed. The state of those economies is relevant to the goals of the ASP Program. Again, i have no personal interest in relation to this proposal, just past experience with representation of indigenous peoples prior to retiring. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:47 AM Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org> wrote: Greetings ASP-IRT colleagues, Wishing you all a healthy start to 2024 and we look forward to continuing to work together this year. In preparation for our upcoming ASP-IRT meetings this week, please find the draft ASP Handbook attached. It will also be posted on the wiki. As you review the Handbook, you will note that the criteria, indicators, and flowcharts we reviewed in December are embedded throughout. Based upon your collective feedback, ICANN org has made some suggested edits to the criteria and indicators which are noted in suggestion mode. Throughout the handbook, you will also note questions or comments to the IRT which we hope to bring to our discussions later this week. For our first session this week, we will plan to start with the proposed changes to the criteria and indicators section and then move on to other parts of the handbook with a focus on the questions and comments to the IRT so we have a chance to get quick feedback on those. We realize this is a longer document and we will be sure to cover it all as a group during our meetings, noting that we may need to schedule additional meetings to do so. We hope to keep our meetings focused on the section(s) at hand so we can get through it as efficiently as possible. Many thanks in advance for your time and we look forward to meeting with you all soon. Kind regards, Kristy Buckley, on behalf of the ASP Project Team _______________________________________________ Subpro-irt-asp mailing list Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/subpro-irt-asp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Dear Tijani, Many thanks for letting us know. Safe travels and we’ll be in touch soon re: further ASP-IRT scheduling. Kind regards, Kristy On Jan 18, 2024, at 20:41, Tijani <tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn> wrote: Hi Kristy and all, This is to inform you that I most likely won’t attend today call being on the road at that time. I apologize. Best Tijani De : Subpro-irt-asp <subpro-irt-asp-bounces@icann.org> au nom de Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org> Date : vendredi 19 janvier 2024 à 00:25 À : Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>, Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann@icann.org> Cc : "subpro-irt-asp@icann.org" <subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> Objet : Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] [Ext] Re: DRAFT ASP Handbook for ASP-IRT Many thanks, Anne. Appreciate all of your thoughtful comments and this additional example of how it's defined. Kind regards, Kristy ________________________________ From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2024 2:59:23 PM To: Kristy Buckley; Lars Hoffmann Cc: subpro-irt-asp@icann.org Subject: [Ext] Re: [Subpro-irt-asp] DRAFT ASP Handbook for ASP-IRT Thanks for today's discussion on the topic of adding principal place of business on indigenous lands to 5.5.5. for small business eligibility. A note re the idea mentioned by Kristy of an "OR" clause to provide alternative proof re geography in an indigenous less-developed area is that the Constitution of Brazil defines "indigenous land" as follows: The text in force gives a constitutional category or status to the concept of indigenous lands [pib.socioambiental.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/pib.socioambiental.org/en/c/terras-indigen...>, which is defined as follows in paragraph 2 of Article 231: Lands traditionally occupied by the Indians are those that they have inhabited permanently, used for their productive activity, their welfare and necessary for their cultural and physical reproduction, according to their uses, customs and traditions." Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:41 PM Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com>> wrote: By way of further information, please see the UN Call to Action at the link below. In yesterday's call, I mentioned "beef cattle" as a possible use case in this category. By way of example, please consider the Native American Beef program. The Program itself might be eligible under 5.5.3 in the Handbook if it meets other requirements. However, privately-owned ranching operations on tribal lands who are micro or small businesses and who produce that beef would not be eligible under 5.5.5 as currently drafted. Some of these ranchers have plans to expand their sales beyond US borders. This is not an "edge case" and ICANN has the opportunity to take action to assist indigenous small business if we amend 5.5.5 accordingly. The advantages of a gTLD include secure transactions and creation of a distinct marketing presence. Without the ability to qualify for ASP training, Application Counseling, and fee reductions, the new gTLD program would be clearly out of reach for these small businesses. (Nothing guarantees that including them will put them within reach of operating a new gTLD but by amending 5.5.5 to include principal place of business on indigenous tribal lands (with the indigenous residents as officers requirement), we eliminate one more barrier to success. https://unsceb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/CEB-Call-to-Action-Indigenous... [unsceb.org]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/unsceb.org/sites/default/files/2021-01/CE...> Given our increasingly global economy, I am sure there are potential examples in other nations outside the U.S. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 8:26 PM Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Kristy and all ASP subteam members, Regarding the discussion held today on Section 5.5.5 of the ASP Handbook as to "Micro or Small business from a Less-developed Economy", I propose we add an objective category to the definition of lesser developed economies, i.e. "principal place of business located on indigenous tribal lands" accompanied by the other requirements as to location of officers and ownership and control. In support of this addition, I attach the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples, with special reference to Articles 20 and 32, as well as Article 39 which refers to " access to financial and technical assistance... through international cooperation". In this regard, I believe that leaving out the ability for micro or small businesses principally located on tribal lands under this basis for qualification for the ASP Program would not be consistent with ICANN's Human Rights Core Value. The Less-developed Economy basis for micro or small business is a separate basis from 5.5.4 social impact or public benefit and is separate from 5.5.3 tribal people's organization with a demonstrated Consent Form. We should be acknowledging, in accordance with the attachment, that indigenous tribal economies all over the world are less-developed. The state of those economies is relevant to the goals of the ASP Program. Again, i have no personal interest in relation to this proposal, just past experience with representation of indigenous peoples prior to retiring. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 11:47 AM Kristy Buckley <kristy.buckley@icann.org<mailto:kristy.buckley@icann.org>> wrote: Greetings ASP-IRT colleagues, Wishing you all a healthy start to 2024 and we look forward to continuing to work together this year. In preparation for our upcoming ASP-IRT meetings this week, please find the draft ASP Handbook attached. It will also be posted on the wiki. As you review the Handbook, you will note that the criteria, indicators, and flowcharts we reviewed in December are embedded throughout. Based upon your collective feedback, ICANN org has made some suggested edits to the criteria and indicators which are noted in suggestion mode. Throughout the handbook, you will also note questions or comments to the IRT which we hope to bring to our discussions later this week. For our first session this week, we will plan to start with the proposed changes to the criteria and indicators section and then move on to other parts of the handbook with a focus on the questions and comments to the IRT so we have a chance to get quick feedback on those. We realize this is a longer document and we will be sure to cover it all as a group during our meetings, noting that we may need to schedule additional meetings to do so. We hope to keep our meetings focused on the section(s) at hand so we can get through it as efficiently as possible. Many thanks in advance for your time and we look forward to meeting with you all soon. Kind regards, Kristy Buckley, on behalf of the ASP Project Team _______________________________________________ Subpro-irt-asp mailing list Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org<mailto:Subpro-irt-asp@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/subpro-irt-asp _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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