Thank you, Martin, for the clarification. After the IRT’s feedback on the unhelpfulness of t-shirt sizing the conditional evaluation fees during the call and on the list, Marika had indicated in her email to you on Wednesday, that we will take out these figures, which were based on our 2012 experiences. It seems more productive to continue discussing the conditional fees when we have some concrete offers from vendors on what the likely pass-through costs will be, by which time we should also have a more detailed understanding of the staff resources that may need to be involved in the admiration side of these evaluations.
Best wishes. Lars
From: Martin Sutton <martin@tldz.com>
Date: Saturday, 8 February 2025 at 08:23
To: Lars Hoffmann <lars.hoffmann@icann.org>
Cc: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>, Michael Karakash via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org>
Subject: [Ext] Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Next Steps + Language on Fees and Application Questions
Hi Lars,
I think Ruben’s may be referring to the additional fees on page 3, where these items remain blank.
Regards,
Martin
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On 8 Feb 2025, at 07:12, Lars Hoffmann via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Dear Rubens,
Thank you for kindly reaching out. When I checked the Google Doc just now, I could see the fee language. I also saw another external IRT member in the document. Version history seems to suggest the document had been available and not modified since before I sent the email yesterday. So perhaps the issue is at your end. In any case, attached is a PDF version that hopefully works.
Kind regards. Lars
From: Rubens Kuhl via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org>
Reply-To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>
Date: Friday, 7 February 2025 at 20:48
To: Michael Karakash via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org>
Subject: [SubPro-IRT] Re: Next Steps + Language on Fees and Application Questions
1. On Tuesday, we will focus on Fees [docs.google.com] and the RA. You can now review the draft AGB language on fees [docs.google.com], which includes updates based on the feedback we have received to-date, including an additional refund window, refund options for strings that are determined to be of high risk of collision, and refunds in case of material changes to the AGB. Draft AGB Language: Application Fees [docs.google.com]
It would be nice to have the actual fees before the session. For now they are blank.
Rubens
<EXT_Application Fees.pdf>
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