Lars cc as above

Good afternoon.  Well, on private auctions; there are now Recommendations on private auctions….at least from GAC

https://gac.icann.org/contentMigrated/icann80-kigali-communique

best

Nigel

From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Lars Hoffmann
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2024 9:39 AM
To: subpro-irt@icann.org
Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Application Fee FAQ

Dear Rubens and Sam,

Thank you for your input on the matter of ICANN’s Aucions of Last Resort. I wanted to quickly remind everyone that the GNSO Council did not adopt recommendations 35.2 and 35.4 and, thus, these were not forwarded to the Board for its consideration. As a result, there are no recommendations on private auctions (see also Council Clarifying Statement in the September 2023 Scorecard) , and no recommendations on ICANN’s auction of last resort.

Best wishes,

Lars

From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Rubens Kuhl via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org>
Reply to: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br>
Date: Saturday, 15 June 2024 at 04:52
To: Rubens Kuhl via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org>
Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Application Fee FAQ

I reread the final report and ascending clock is not foreseen in the report, only a sealed bid like you mentioned. And the sealed bid  amount needs to be informed prior to Reveal Day, although it may be later changed in some conditions (like indirect contention and withdrawals). 

Rubens

Em 14 de jun. de 2024, à(s) 17:27, Sam Lanfranco <samlanfranco@gmail.com> escreveu:

I had not given that matter thought in my initial statement, but in general the economist in my favors, in this case, simple sealed bid auctions. There applicants have to make a "best guess" based on their business case estimates. This avoids bidding wars, and a bit less revenue to ICANN, but is also gives the winner a cost based on their business case estimates. ICANN going for more, and gamblers will likely disagree with me.

Sam L.

Internet Elder, Internet Ecologist

On Jun 14, 2024, at 8:50 p.m., Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@nic.br> wrote:

Em 14 de jun. de 2024, à(s) 11:55, trachtenbergm--- via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> escreveu:

Sam,

Can you clarify what you mean by “sealed bids”?  Are you suggesting applications submit sealed bids for their application fees?

I took it as not having ascending bids for auction of last resort. What I am unsure is whether this would apply only to contention sets with supported applicants (those would only have a single round) or to all auctions of last resort. 

Rubens