CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdxnu2Semqyv1oDLTvyopJ3Qm8B4tPd...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet)<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm2I6XaZi0OzpoikzrFx23q6zEU6cR...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet)<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdxnu2Semqyv1oDLTvyopJ3Qm8B4tPd...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet)<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm2I6XaZi0OzpoikzrFx23q6zEU6cR...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>
Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdx...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>
Would appreciate having a little more time to complete the test please. Thanks, Justine --------- On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, 06:43 Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT, <subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December.
Thank you Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this?
Thanks
Jim Prendergast
The Galway Strategy Group
+1 202-285-3699
*From:* Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM *To:* subpro-irt@icann.org *Subject:* [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members,
As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC.
- Criteria Overview (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> - Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdx...> - Stress Test Materials (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> - Stress Test Materials (xlsx) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) - Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes)
On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria.
Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time.
Best,
Jared
--
Jared Erwin
Director, New gTLD Program
Global Domains & Strategy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
jared.erwin@icann.org
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Thanks, Justine. Can you define “a little more”? If until 4 December is sufficient, that should work. If longer, we’ll need to consider the schedule and see if we are able to make adjustments. Best Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 14:47, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> wrote: Would appreciate having a little more time to complete the test please. Thanks, Justine --------- On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, 06:43 Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT, <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com<mailto:jim@galwaysg.com>> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdx...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org> _______________________________________________ SubPro-IRT mailing list -- subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to subpro-irt-leave@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Dear Jared, Every extra day helps in some way. I will try to reply on 4 Dec, with the caveat that the IRT's discussion of results might raise further thoughts for consideration. Many thanks! Justine On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 06:58, Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> wrote:
Thanks, Justine. Can you define “a little more”? If until 4 December is sufficient, that should work. If longer, we’ll need to consider the schedule and see if we are able to make adjustments.
Best Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 14:47, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> wrote:
Would appreciate having a little more time to complete the test please.
Thanks, Justine ---------
On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, 06:43 Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT, < subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December.
Thank you Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this?
Thanks
Jim Prendergast
The Galway Strategy Group
+1 202-285-3699
*From:* Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM *To:* subpro-irt@icann.org *Subject:* [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members,
As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC.
- Criteria Overview (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> - Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdx...> - Stress Test Materials (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> - Stress Test Materials (xlsx) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) - Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes)
On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria.
Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time.
Best,
Jared
--
Jared Erwin
Director, New gTLD Program
Global Domains & Strategy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
jared.erwin@icann.org
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Hi Justine, Understood. Thank you. Best Jared From: Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 2, 2024 at 18:29 To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Dear Jared, Every extra day helps in some way. I will try to reply on 4 Dec, with the caveat that the IRT's discussion of results might raise further thoughts for consideration. Many thanks! Justine On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 at 06:58, Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>> wrote: Thanks, Justine. Can you define “a little more”? If until 4 December is sufficient, that should work. If longer, we’ll need to consider the schedule and see if we are able to make adjustments. Best Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 14:47, Justine Chew <justine.chew.icann@gmail.com<mailto:justine.chew.icann@gmail.com>> wrote: Would appreciate having a little more time to complete the test please. Thanks, Justine --------- On Tue, 3 Dec 2024, 06:43 Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT, <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com<mailto:jim@galwaysg.com>> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdxn...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm2...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org> _______________________________________________ SubPro-IRT mailing list -- subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to subpro-irt-leave@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Jared, Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments: Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.) Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT < subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December.
Thank you Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this?
Thanks
Jim Prendergast
The Galway Strategy Group
+1 202-285-3699
*From:* Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM *To:* subpro-irt@icann.org *Subject:* [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members,
As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC.
- Criteria Overview (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> - Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdx...> - Stress Test Materials (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> - Stress Test Materials (xlsx) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) - Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes)
On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria.
Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time.
Best,
Jared
--
Jared Erwin
Director, New gTLD Program
Global Domains & Strategy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
jared.erwin@icann.org
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Hi Anne, Thanks for the question. Your assumption is correct, references to “community as defined” means “community as defined by the applicant in their responses to the application questions”. We can try to be clearer about this in our questions/criteria. But, for example, question 20 asks for the applicant to provide the name of their community, and question 21 asks for the applicant to spell out the mission and purpose. Additionally, question 24 and 25 ask about how the community is organized, this also plays into the definition. So, the application as a whole is the “definition” of the community. But again, we can try to be clearer and more consistent with this “as defined” language. And yes, as for the “longer name”, we will update the criteria/explanations to account for that. I think there was a suggestion to say “alternate name/form” instead of “short form”—that seems to make sense. I hope that helps. Thank you Jared From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 2, 2024 at 17:05 To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Jared, Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments: Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.) Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com<mailto:jim@galwaysg.com>> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdxn...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm2...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org> _______________________________________________ SubPro-IRT mailing list -- subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> To unsubscribe send an email to subpro-irt-leave@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt-leave@icann.org> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). 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Thanks Jared. Yes that helps on both counts: 1. reference to "community as defined by the applicant" and 2. alternate form of the name (not just shorter or abbreviated) Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Anne,
Thanks for the question. Your assumption is correct, references to “community as defined” means “community as defined by the applicant in their responses to the application questions”. We can try to be clearer about this in our questions/criteria. But, for example, question 20 asks for the applicant to provide the name of their community, and question 21 asks for the applicant to spell out the mission and purpose. Additionally, question 24 and 25 ask about how the community is organized, this also plays into the definition. So, the application as a whole is the “definition” of the community. But again, we can try to be clearer and more consistent with this “as defined” language.
And yes, as for the “longer name”, we will update the criteria/explanations to account for that. I think there was a suggestion to say “alternate name/form” instead of “short form”—that seems to make sense.
I hope that helps.
Thank you
Jared
*From: *Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, December 2, 2024 at 17:05 *To: *Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> *Cc: *Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, "subpro-irt@icann.org" < subpro-irt@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials
Jared,
Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments:
Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.)
Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections.
Thank you,
Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese
GNSO Councilor
NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026
anneicanngnso@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT < subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December.
Thank you
Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this?
Thanks
Jim Prendergast
The Galway Strategy Group
+1 202-285-3699
*From:* Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM *To:* subpro-irt@icann.org *Subject:* [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members,
As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page <https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=371327335>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC.
- Criteria Overview (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/EXT_Topic%2034_%2...> - Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/document/d/1e4XwJ0zswIdxn...> - Stress Test Materials (pdf) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> - Stress Test Materials (xlsx) <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/371327335/CPE%20Stress%20Te...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) - Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bQRN17Bm2...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes)
On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria.
Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time.
Best,
Jared
--
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Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
jared.erwin@icann.org
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HI, I have some additional questions on this item and others. Based on your response below Jared, I’m assuming the questions and criteria language is open for editing updates. Is that right? Based on your response below, I’m assuming we should read all questions as a Community is as defined by the applicant, not the “Community” as perceived by anyone else? For example, let’s say I am involved in the ‘climbing community’. Climbing in general includes alpine, ice, rock, high mountain, mixed, sport, trad etc. My climbing is limited to ice climbing. Is the evaluator going to consider my definition of climbing (limited to ice) or will they be aware of the broader definition and take that into consideration when evaluating these questions? This is an important distinction because the scores at least for Establishment and Endorsement could be very different depending on the answer to the question “as defined by the applicant” or “as understood by the rest of the world” What level of guidance will evaluators receive from ICANN org when trying to score applications? How much influence will the evaluators pre-conceived ideas or research have over the scoring as compared to just the application material? How is verification completed for supporting organizations? Just a copy of the letter suffice? Or does the evaluator make a phone call? Is a survey outcome from the applicant enough? For scoring “support” or “opposition”, does the evaluator rely solely on submissions or do they get to survey the internet for evidence of support or opposition? If they do and their google skills are poor, how is their inability to find anything weighed into the scoring? What are the thresholds? I’d like to point out the discrepancy between the Questions, Rubric and the Criteria. Why not just ask the applicant if they meet the criteria as defined? Here is an example. Read the question then read the criteria. The Criteria are much more specific. Looking forward to our discussion tomorrow. Elaine PS the third time through, my evaluation resulted in a failing score of 6. The first time through it was a passing score of 12. From: Anne ICANN via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Reply-To: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 2:37 PM To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Thanks Jared. Yes that helps on both counts: 1. reference to "community as defined by the applicant" and 2. alternate form of the name (not just shorter or abbreviated) Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> wrote: Hi Anne, Thanks for the question. Your assumption is correct, references to “community as defined” means “community as defined by the applicant in their responses to the application questions”. We can try to be clearer about this in our questions/criteria. But, for example, question 20 asks for the applicant to provide the name of their community, and question 21 asks for the applicant to spell out the mission and purpose. Additionally, question 24 and 25 ask about how the community is organized, this also plays into the definition. So, the application as a whole is the “definition” of the community. But again, we can try to be clearer and more consistent with this “as defined” language. And yes, as for the “longer name”, we will update the criteria/explanations to account for that. I think there was a suggestion to say “alternate name/form” instead of “short form”—that seems to make sense. I hope that helps. Thank you Jared From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Date: Monday, December 2, 2024 at 17:05 To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Jared, Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments: Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.) Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote: Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. Criteria Overview (pdf) Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] Stress Test Materials (pdf) Stress Test Materials (xlsx) (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. Best, Jared -- Jared Erwin Director, New gTLD Program Global Domains & Strategy Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) jared.erwin@icann.org _______________________________________________ SubPro-IRT mailing list -- subpro-irt@icann.org To unsubscribe send an email to subpro-irt-leave@icann.org _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Thank you, Elaine. These are great questions, and I think we have answers to many of them. We’re adding them to our pile for discussion tomorrow. Best Jared From: "Pruis, Elaine" <epruis@verisign.com> Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 13:42 To: "anneicanngnso@gmail.com" <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>, "jared.erwin@icann.org" <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials HI, I have some additional questions on this item and others. 1. Based on your response below Jared, I’m assuming the questions and criteria language is open for editing updates. Is that right? 2. Based on your response below, I’m assuming we should read all questions as a Community is as defined by the applicant, not the “Community” as perceived by anyone else? For example, let’s say I am involved in the ‘climbing community’. Climbing in general includes alpine, ice, rock, high mountain, mixed, sport, trad etc. My climbing is limited to ice climbing. Is the evaluator going to consider my definition of climbing (limited to ice) or will they be aware of the broader definition and take that into consideration when evaluating these questions? This is an important distinction because the scores at least for Establishment and Endorsement could be very different depending on the answer to the question “as defined by the applicant” or “as understood by the rest of the world” 3. What level of guidance will evaluators receive from ICANN org when trying to score applications? 4. How much influence will the evaluators pre-conceived ideas or research have over the scoring as compared to just the application material? 5. How is verification completed for supporting organizations? Just a copy of the letter suffice? Or does the evaluator make a phone call? Is a survey outcome from the applicant enough? 6. For scoring “support” or “opposition”, does the evaluator rely solely on submissions or do they get to survey the internet for evidence of support or opposition? If they do and their google skills are poor, how is their inability to find anything weighed into the scoring? What are the thresholds? 7. I’d like to point out the discrepancy between the Questions, Rubric and the Criteria. Why not just ask the applicant if they meet the criteria as defined? Here is an example. Read the question then read the criteria. The Criteria are much more specific. [cid:image001.png@01DB4665.69C45F80] [cid:image002.png@01DB4665.69C45F80] Looking forward to our discussion tomorrow. Elaine PS the third time through, my evaluation resulted in a failing score of 6. The first time through it was a passing score of 12. From: Anne ICANN via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Reply-To: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 2:37 PM To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> Cc: "subpro-irt@icann.org" <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Caution: This email originated from outside the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Thanks Jared. Yes that helps on both counts: 1. reference to "community as defined by the applicant" and 2. alternate form of the name (not just shorter or abbreviated) Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Anne, Thanks for the question. Your assumption is correct, references to “community as defined” means “community as defined by the applicant in their responses to the application questions”. We can try to be clearer about this in our questions/criteria. But, for example, question 20 asks for the applicant to provide the name of their community, and question 21 asks for the applicant to spell out the mission and purpose. Additionally, question 24 and 25 ask about how the community is organized, this also plays into the definition. So, the application as a whole is the “definition” of the community. But again, we can try to be clearer and more consistent with this “as defined” language. And yes, as for the “longer name”, we will update the criteria/explanations to account for that. I think there was a suggestion to say “alternate name/form” instead of “short form”—that seems to make sense. I hope that helps. Thank you Jared From: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com>> Date: Monday, December 2, 2024 at 17:05 To: Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org<mailto:jared.erwin@icann.org>> Cc: Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM<mailto:jim@GALWAYSG.COM>>, "subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>" <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials Jared, Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments: Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.) Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com<mailto:anneicanngnso@gmail.com> On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> wrote: Hi Jim, The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December. Thank you Jared On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com<mailto:jim@galwaysg.com>> wrote: Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this? Thanks Jim Prendergast The Galway Strategy Group +1 202-285-3699 From: Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM To: subpro-irt@icann.org<mailto:subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials Dear IRT Members, As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1tLInksITwEYz8_vF2LWV-SD7YbYSXrUN9S00HJFh4sUnlm...>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC. * Criteria Overview (pdf)<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1j7X7QF9IcGIl54dupmogrGZXLD-J4HnJUhLwX4ga8EBPJl...> * Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1EW6kYCZQkmQ-79PeKjreMWlqfSp36EIOoZFhTYgN5Z22Up...> * Stress Test Materials (pdf)<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1YhUIUXYbWM316pImZ0qxblclnGOaohyxAqDXqOAmf4KirU...> * Stress Test Materials (xlsx)<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1oYC5BKDf3ySCjAq1Z6spK05IyN71psNVS5TM4g33Ze_wQQ...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) * Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com]<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1rITXea4OYY3YUAVDNlkPujotQX85IMsrvtllBMoeUOFdd_...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes) On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria. Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time. 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Much appreciated Elaine. I had the SAME experience when scoring - 2 very different outcomes - one pass and one fail. The biggest issue I had other than (Who defines the community?) was the issue of "Majority" Endorsement in relation to a "community of 150 Million". In some ways, this Stress Test TLD looks more like an applicant's desire to create a new community on a commercially viable basis - rather than a desire to represent an existing established community. (Maybe that was on purpose?) Looking forward to the discussion, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:39 PM Pruis, Elaine <epruis@verisign.com> wrote:
HI, I have some additional questions on this item and others.
1. Based on your response below Jared, I’m assuming the questions and criteria language is open for editing updates. Is that right? 2. Based on your response below, I’m assuming we should read all questions as a Community is as defined by the applicant, not the “Community” as perceived by anyone else? For example, let’s say I am involved in the ‘climbing community’. Climbing in general includes alpine, ice, rock, high mountain, mixed, sport, trad etc. My climbing is limited to ice climbing. Is the evaluator going to consider my definition of climbing (limited to ice) or will they be aware of the broader definition and take that into consideration when evaluating these questions? This is an important distinction because the scores at least for Establishment and Endorsement could be very different depending on the answer to the question “as defined by the applicant” or “as understood by the rest of the world” 3. What level of guidance will evaluators receive from ICANN org when trying to score applications? 4. How much influence will the evaluators pre-conceived ideas or research have over the scoring as compared to just the application material? 5. How is verification completed for supporting organizations? Just a copy of the letter suffice? Or does the evaluator make a phone call? Is a survey outcome from the applicant enough? 6. For scoring “support” or “opposition”, does the evaluator rely solely on submissions or do they get to survey the internet for evidence of support or opposition? If they do and their google skills are poor, how is their inability to find anything weighed into the scoring? What are the thresholds? 7. I’d like to point out the discrepancy between the Questions, Rubric and the Criteria. Why not just ask the applicant if they meet the criteria as defined? Here is an example. Read the question then read the criteria. The Criteria are much more specific.
Looking forward to our discussion tomorrow.
Elaine
PS the third time through, my evaluation resulted in a failing score of 6. The first time through it was a passing score of 12.
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Thanks Jared. Yes that helps on both counts:
1. reference to "community as defined by the applicant" and
2. alternate form of the name (not just shorter or abbreviated)
Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese
GNSO Councilor
NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026
anneicanngnso@gmail.com
On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 2:15 PM Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Anne,
Thanks for the question. Your assumption is correct, references to “community as defined” means “community as defined by the applicant in their responses to the application questions”. We can try to be clearer about this in our questions/criteria. But, for example, question 20 asks for the applicant to provide the name of their community, and question 21 asks for the applicant to spell out the mission and purpose. Additionally, question 24 and 25 ask about how the community is organized, this also plays into the definition. So, the application as a whole is the “definition” of the community. But again, we can try to be clearer and more consistent with this “as defined” language.
And yes, as for the “longer name”, we will update the criteria/explanations to account for that. I think there was a suggestion to say “alternate name/form” instead of “short form”—that seems to make sense.
I hope that helps.
Thank you
Jared
*From: *Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> *Date: *Monday, December 2, 2024 at 17:05 *To: *Jared Erwin <jared.erwin@icann.org> *Cc: *Jim Prendergast <jim@GALWAYSG.COM>, "subpro-irt@icann.org" < subpro-irt@icann.org> *Subject: *Re: [SubPro-IRT] Re: [Ext] RE: CPE Stress Test Materials
Jared,
Regarding the Overview, a couple of very general questions/comments:
Re: Nexus scoring - score is based on the proximity match of the proposed TLD to the "name of the community". Who determines what the name of the community is? There is a later reference in "Endorsement" to the "community as defined" and points awarded for the endorsement of the "community as defined" - presumably by the applicant? Can we be clearer as to what definition applies in relation to both Nexus and Endorsement? (Scoring depends on this.)
Separately, as you know, I think that as to Nexus, the TLD name could be longer, not just shorter or an abbreviation but still be entitled to get maximum points. The example I gave on the call was for the community of wizards to propose (dot)WIZARDRY. One reason they might want to do this is to avoid the new rule on singulars and plurals by NOT applying for (dot)WIZARD or (dot)WIZARDS. Again, is the "community name" for Nexus purposes determined by a Community Priority Panel or by the applicant? If by the applicant, then the Criteria Overview should specify "community as defined by the applicant" in both the Nexus and the Endorsement sections.
Thank you,
Anne
Anne Aikman-Scalese
GNSO Councilor
NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2026
anneicanngnso@gmail.com
On Mon, Dec 2, 2024 at 3:43 PM Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT < subpro-irt@icann.org> wrote:
Hi Jim,
The deadline is tomorrow, 3 December. We plan to discuss results on Thursday, 5 December.
Thank you
Jared
On Dec 2, 2024, at 13:08, Jim Prendergast <jim@galwaysg.com> wrote:
Hey Jared and all – when is the deadline for completing this?
Thanks
Jim Prendergast
The Galway Strategy Group
+1 202-285-3699
*From:* Jared Erwin via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 5:35 PM *To:* subpro-irt@icann.org *Subject:* [SubPro-IRT] CPE Stress Test Materials
Dear IRT Members,
As discussed at our session at ICANN81, we would like to proceed with a “stress test” of the CPE criteria. To that end, I’m providing some materials (also found on the wiki page <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1tLInksITwEYz8_vF2LWV-SD7YbYSXrUN9S00HJFh4sUnlm...>), which we will discuss at our call on Thursday, 21 November 2024 at 05:00-07:00 UTC.
- Criteria Overview (pdf) <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1j7X7QF9IcGIl54dupmogrGZXLD-J4HnJUhLwX4ga8EBPJl...> - Criteria Overview (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1EW6kYCZQkmQ-79PeKjreMWlqfSp36EIOoZFhTYgN5Z22Up...> - Stress Test Materials (pdf) <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1YhUIUXYbWM316pImZ0qxblclnGOaohyxAqDXqOAmf4KirU...> - Stress Test Materials (xlsx) <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1oYC5BKDf3ySCjAq1Z6spK05IyN71psNVS5TM4g33Ze_wQQ...> (note: be sure to expand the rows to see the full fields/text) - Stress Test Materials (google sheet) [docs.google.com] <https://secure-web.cisco.com/1rITXea4OYY3YUAVDNlkPujotQX85IMsrvtllBMoeUOFdd_...> (note: this is in “viewer mode” as IRT members should make their own copy for scoring purposes)
On our call, we will go through the instructions/materials and I can answer any initial questions you may have. Time permitting, we will also walk through the criteria.
Thank you and speak to you later this evening LA time.
Best,
Jared
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Jared Erwin
Director, New gTLD Program
Global Domains & Strategy
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
jared.erwin@icann.org
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Pruis, Elaine