---------------------------------------- From: "Phil Buckingham" <phil@dotadvice.co.uk> Sent: 12 October 2023 00:59 To: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <mike@rodenbaugh.com>, "Jeff Neuman" <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: RE: [SubPro-IRT] REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #14 | 10 October 2023, 20:00-21:00 UTC Jeff, I agree with your thinking and wording. Think we should add "Any potential conflicts of interest during a vendor's contract will be reviewed regularly" . Thanks, From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Mike Rodenbaugh Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 7:55 PM To: Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #14 | 10 October 2023, 20:00-21:00 UTC +1 Jeff, thank you. Mike Rodenbaugh address: 548 Market Street, Box 55819 San Francisco, CA 94104 email: mike@rodenbaugh.com phone: +1 (415) 738-8087 On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:11?AM Jeff Neuman <jeff@jjnsolutions.com> wrote: All, I agree with the concepts that one should be free of conflict as soon as it accepts the appointment. But that is not what Anne's language states. Anne's language states that it should be free of conflicts upon application which I do not necessarily agree with. For example, I am a consultant that sometimes advises registries and registrars. Some of those registries and registrars may be applying for a TLD in the next round and I may or may not know that. If I were to accept the appointment I would need to make sure that i do not continue to represent those registries and registrars going forward. I should not be required to rid myself of those clients on the day I apply for a position that I may or may not get. After all, if I do not get the appointment, now I have gotten rid of my clients AND do not have work going forward. Of course, if I get a position as a vendor, then of course I need to rid myself of those potential conflicts. This is how the normal conflict process works. So if we changed Anne's language to "upon acceptance of the appointment", I think that makes more sense. Get Outlook for iOS ---------------------------------------- From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Hickson, Nigel (DSIT) via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt@icann.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 1:22 PM To: Amina Ramallan <aramallan@ncc.gov.ng>; Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>; Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #14 | 10 October 2023, 20:00-21:00 UTC Good afternoon I agree; this seems eminently sensible; thanks for raising Anne; Best Nigel From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Amina Ramallan via SubPro-IRT Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2023 6:06 PM To: Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com>; Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #14 | 10 October 2023, 20:00-21:00 UTC Hello all, Yes, I also agree with Anne as vendors should be free of conflict prior to accepting the appointment. Thanks, Amina Get Outlook for iOS ---------------------------------------- From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Anne ICANN <anneicanngnso@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 00:55 To: Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> Cc: subpro-irt@icann.org <subpro-irt@icann.org> Subject: Re: [SubPro-IRT] REMINDER | SubPro IRT Meeting #14 | 10 October 2023, 20:00-21:00 UTC Hi all - apologies for having had to miss the October 10 meeting. I have just reviewed the Zoom. To: Antonietta - I have one comment on the language in 2.4.3 which talks about the timing of applying the ethical obligations. The current language says that the ethical obligations "begin upon acceptance of the appointment" as a vendor. However, it strikes me that the ethical obligations must begin upon application to accept an appointment because the vendor should be free and clear of conflicts of interest upon application and should represent that it has no conflicts upon making application for the appointment. If others agree, could you please address by changing "upon acceptance of the appointment" to "upon application for the appointment" or some similar change in the language? I don't think we want a vendor who maintains a conflict unless and until the vendor is appointed and then drops that conflict to address this requirement. Thank you, Anne Anne Aikman-Scalese GNSO Councilor NomCom Non-Voting 2022-2024 anneicanngnso@gmail.com On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 12:00?PM Next Round Policy Implementation <NextRound_PolicyImplementation@icann.org> wrote: Dear All, Meeting #14 of the SubPro IRT will be held in an hour on 10 October 2023 at 20:00-21:00 UTC [local time]. The agenda can be consulted here. 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