Thanks very much Roger and Amr for your responses.

I think we¹re in agreement regarding automated script detection as a
mandatory provision. We¹ll discuss further with our team next week, but I
do not imagine we¹ll want to craft any language that mandates this.

And to restate what both Roger and Amr have said, no one is required to
transform, but if someone requests it, it should be done according to the
standards we develop. Think we¹re on the same page here.

I encourage everyone to read the GNSO letters Amr linked in his email.
They pertain to the relationship between the Internationalized
Registration Data Final Report and the T/T Final Report. Among other
things, they provide very useful context for language tagging.

All best,

Brian

On 1/5/17, 1:11 PM, "translationtransliterationirt-bounces@icann.org on
behalf of Amr Elsadr" <translationtransliterationirt-bounces@icann.org on

behalf of aelsadr@egyptig.org> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Apologies for not attending the call (if there is an archived mp3
>recording, I¹d appreciate a link), so forgive me if my comments are a bit
>out of context. Whether or not this group should mandate automated
>methods for language detection is not something I have a ready thought
>on, but I imagine that whether or not the contact data language detection
>is automated, it needs to be accurate in its detection. Is that something
>that is possible? There were studies done a couple of years ago on
>accuracy of automated T/T, and those did not prove fruitful. Too many
>identified languages scripts with large error margins (more on this can
>be found on the PDP WG wiki page here:
>https://community.icann.org/display/tatcipdp/7+Studies+and+Background+Docu
>ments). Language/script detection may be a different matter, but are
>there any indications out there that this can indeed be done reliably?
>That might be something worth considering before contemplating mandatory
>automated detection as an implementation measure.
>
>Also on this from Roger:
>
>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 10:17 PM, Roger D Carney <rcarney@godaddy.com> wrote:
>>
>
>[snip]
>
>> In regards to the last point, and as I have stated before in different
>>ways, my expectation coming out of the T/T PDP was that transformation
>>(in its entirety) was not mandatory. And to me this meant none of the
>>recommendations were mandatory but that if you did translate and/or
>>transliterate then these recommendations would apply. My expectation for
>>the T/T implementation group was to come up with an implementation for
>>those that choose to translate and/or transliterate.
>

>YesŠ, this sounds right to me. If a ³gTLD Provider², which I have always

>understood to be a registry and/or registrar chooses to provide
>registration services in local languages and scripts with optional
>transformation, the rest of the consensus policy kicks in. So if a
>contracted party chooses to transform, it will be required to fill in
>language tags. It is however my understanding the the whois replacement
>system needs to be able to provide language tags as a feature, so that in
>the event that the contracted party chooses to transform data, the
>ability to tag certain fields is in place. If I recall correctly, the PDP
>WG also recommended that it be indicated who actually transformed the
>authoritative data in its local language/script.
>
>You may also find an exchange that took place between the ICANN Board and
>GNSO Council on some of this to be insightful.
>
>Letter from the ICANN Board to the GNSO Council:
>https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/crocker-to-bladel-11m
>ay16-en.pdf
>
>GNSO Council response:
>https://gnso.icann.org/en/correspondence/gnso-council-to-icann-board-21dec
>16-en.pdf
>
>Thanks.
>
>Amr
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