Irish government might finally recognise accents in words
You’d think we’d have this already, but oddly we don’t: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/irish-fadato-get-legal-protec... A lot of state bodies still can’t print documents with an accent, which is farcical Hopefully this will get through, but it’s only a proposal at the moment Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ https://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845
Il 20/09/2021 14:41 Michele Neylon - Blacknight via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> ha scritto:
You’d think we’d have this already, but oddly we don’t:
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/irish-fadato-get-legal-protec...
That would be good, but even having the key on the keyboard and the right default charset in the operating system is still not enough. In our Italian experience, today you still find many public offices and private companies (or bad programmers working for them) that require the use of alternative ASCII spellings, such as the unaccented vowel followed by an apostrophe, for "compatibility reasons". We even have the well known triplet da, dà and da' which all sound the same but all mean something different, so it's clear that sometimes the ASCII substitution can actually alter the meaning, but still people learned to write e' in place of è on their first computer in the 90's, and stick to that. -- Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy
A side effect of what Vittorio explains is that many Italians, even among the non-uneducated, often write “è” (third person of the verb “essere”, i.e. “to be”) as é. So even now that keyboards have the accented vowels quite a lot of people get it wrong - and I fear that this trend is by now irreversible. R. On 20.09.2021, at 15:30, Vittorio Bertola via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> wrote: Il 20/09/2021 14:41 Michele Neylon - Blacknight via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> ha scritto: You’d think we’d have this already, but oddly we don’t: https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/irish-fadato-get-legal-protec... That would be good, but even having the key on the keyboard and the right default charset in the operating system is still not enough. In our Italian experience, today you still find many public offices and private companies (or bad programmers working for them) that require the use of alternative ASCII spellings, such as the unaccented vowel followed by an apostrophe, for "compatibility reasons". We even have the well known triplet da, dà and da' which all sound the same but all mean something different, so it's clear that sometimes the ASCII substitution can actually alter the meaning, but still people learned to write e' in place of è on their first computer in the 90's, and stick to that. -- Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com<mailto:vittorio.bertola@open-xchange.com> Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy _______________________________________________ UA-discuss mailing list UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org> https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight -
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Vittorio Bertola