Regarding Anthony's suggestion of either Thursday or Friday, we may want to consider Thursday so the discussion can be more integrated into the overall ICANN program, and attract other ICANN attendees into our discussion. Best regards, Carolyn From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Mark Svancarek Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:53 PM To: Anthony Harris; Don Hollander Cc: Rodrigo De La Parra; UA-discuss@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] It only seems likes it's been quiet... I agree with Anthony's conclusions. ________________________________ From: ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> [ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] on behalf of Anthony Harris [anthonyrharris@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 9:25 AM To: Don Hollander Cc: Rodrigo De La Parra; UA-discuss@icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] It only seems likes it's been quiet... Don, With regards to the full day workshop on the Sunday of the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, I would simply suggest that the choice of day is unfortunate. If the objective is to address the workshop to ICANN regulars, many are still straggling in on Sunday after a long airflight to Argentina. If the objective is to engage local and regional people who could be instrumental in fixing UA non-resolving problems, Sunday is not a day most of them would dedicate to come to a workshop on something they are most probably unaware of. I would recommend a 4 hour workshop on the Thursday morning, before the Public Forum, or on the Friday morning, one hour each for the four groups working in the UASG. If the workshop can take place on a weekday, I can commit to involve the overall network of contacts in LAC that I have access to, and am sure the ICANN LAC VP (Rodrigo de la Parra) and the ICANN LAC Strategy Group would be interested in assisting this effort. IMHO we need to bring to the workshop: - The ISP and Connectivity Community (complaints of UA non-resolving TLDs will land up on their call centers.) - The software development industry clusters and associations, including APPs developers and interactive online portal developers and implementers. - University IT educators - The IT network equipment industry Other suggestions on invitees are important. In addition, and to avoid the workshop having an "exploratory" look and feel, we should be able to present specific instances of non-resolving TLDs as reported by affected registries (e.g.Donuts - problems with home banking online), that have been diagnosed and acted upon all the way to resolution. Two or three examples would suffice, and are essential for clear understanding of what UA is trying to achieve. Tony Harris On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote: It only seems like it's been quiet... Here's an update of some of what's been happening in the UASG world: * Project Group Coordinators that have been confirmed so far... o Top Line Issues - Brent London o Community Outreach - Rich Merdinger and Christian Dawson o Internationalisation - Dusan Stojicevic and Dennis Tan o Measurement and Monitoring - still to be determined * A workshop proposal has been submitted to the IGF. This is co-sponsored by The DNA and the UASG * A workshop proposal has been submitted to the APRIGF (Asia Pacific Regional IGF) * The UA Wiki Page has been updated - https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444 * There has been some discussion on the Community Outreach Project Group mailing list about things that the group can do. Please continue to make contribution there. * An outline for a quarterly newsletter has been established. We're currently looking for a couple of case studies. Please let me know directly if you have some ideas. Now that three out of the four Project Groups have coordinators these groups will start work on clarifying the scope, coming up with ideas to do in the next twelve months, and starting to work. We've also booked space for a full-day workshop on the Sunday during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. Please share what you would like in this workshop. Don

A few things to consider: - We’re close to the BA meeting date and most meeting spaces and schedules are already locked in - Based on the schedules above, other meetings that are many interdependencies - Almost no day is going to be ideal for some group of people I’d be quite skeptical of the ability to create a 4 hour meeting on Thursday, but ICANN staff can speak authoritatively on it. Might be better planned for Dublin perhaps? -Ram ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ram Mohan o: +1.215.706.5700 x103; m: +1.215.431.0958; f: +1.215.706.5701 Skype: gliderpilot30 *From:* Carolyn Nguyen (LCA) [mailto:Carolyn.Nguyen@microsoft.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 6:01 PM *To:* Mark Svancarek; Anthony Harris; Don Hollander *Cc:* Rodrigo De La Parra; UA-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] It only seems likes it's been quiet... Regarding Anthony’s suggestion of either Thursday or Friday, we may want to consider Thursday so the discussion can be more integrated into the overall ICANN program, and attract other ICANN attendees into our discussion. Best regards, Carolyn *From:* ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [mailto:ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mark Svancarek *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 2:53 PM *To:* Anthony Harris; Don Hollander *Cc:* Rodrigo De La Parra; UA-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] It only seems likes it's been quiet... I agree with Anthony's conclusions. ------------------------------ *From:* ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org [ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org] on behalf of Anthony Harris [anthonyrharris@gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 20, 2015 9:25 AM *To:* Don Hollander *Cc:* Rodrigo De La Parra; UA-discuss@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-discuss] It only seems likes it's been quiet... Don, With regards to the full day workshop on the Sunday of the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, I would simply suggest that the choice of day is unfortunate. If the objective is to address the workshop to ICANN regulars, many are still straggling in on Sunday after a long airflight to Argentina. If the objective is to engage local and regional people who could be instrumental in fixing UA non-resolving problems, Sunday is not a day most of them would dedicate to come to a workshop on something they are most probably unaware of. I would recommend a 4 hour workshop on the Thursday morning, before the Public Forum, or on the Friday morning, one hour each for the four groups working in the UASG. If the workshop can take place on a weekday, I can commit to involve the overall network of contacts in LAC that I have access to, and am sure the ICANN LAC VP (Rodrigo de la Parra) and the ICANN LAC Strategy Group would be interested in assisting this effort. IMHO we need to bring to the workshop: - The ISP and Connectivity Community (complaints of UA non-resolving TLDs will land up on their call centers.) - The software development industry clusters and associations, including APPs developers and interactive online portal developers and implementers. - University IT educators - The IT network equipment industry Other suggestions on invitees are important. In addition, and to avoid the workshop having an "exploratory" look and feel, we should be able to present specific instances of non-resolving TLDs as reported by affected registries (e.g.Donuts - problems with home banking online), that have been diagnosed and acted upon all the way to resolution. Two or three examples would suffice, and are essential for clear understanding of what UA is trying to achieve. Tony Harris On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote: It only seems like it’s been quiet… Here’s an update of some of what’s been happening in the UASG world: · Project Group Coordinators that have been confirmed so far… o Top Line Issues – Brent London o Community Outreach – Rich Merdinger and Christian Dawson o Internationalisation – Dusan Stojicevic and Dennis Tan o Measurement and Monitoring – still to be determined · A workshop proposal has been submitted to the IGF. This is co-sponsored by The DNA and the UASG · A workshop proposal has been submitted to the APRIGF (Asia Pacific Regional IGF) · The UA Wiki Page has been updated - https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444 · There has been some discussion on the Community Outreach Project Group mailing list about things that the group can do. Please continue to make contribution there. · An outline for a quarterly newsletter has been established. We’re currently looking for a couple of case studies. Please let me know directly if you have some ideas. Now that three out of the four Project Groups have coordinators these groups will start work on clarifying the scope, coming up with ideas to do in the next twelve months, and starting to work. We’ve also booked space for a full-day workshop on the Sunday during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. Please share what you would like in this workshop. Don

One problem with the Sunday all-day slot is that there are many competing events. One way to deal with this is that we could take the all-day session and divide it into several issue-specific sessions now - say two 90-minute sessions in the morning and two in the afternoon. Then people can choose which parts to attend a UA session and that will allow them to plan for other sessions. During that session, I'd like one to focus on communications and awareness planning (including estimating a budget for it). Another should probably focus on technical IDN email issues. Others on this list are more qualified to hammer out an agenda. The existing meeting slot during the week - is that for a public session, similar to the session in Singapore? We - the steering group - could have a close out meeting on Thursday, 90 minutes, to set actions and build momentum for the next few months. That would be a smaller meeting and so we can probably get a room for that. Kurt On Apr 20, 2015, at 3:18 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote:

Tony, et al…

Thanks for your comments regarding the date and the content.

My sense from talking with Cyrus is that Sunday was the only time where a room of sufficient size for sufficient time could be obtained.

We can look at alternatives for Dublin and beyond if people really want to have a similar gathering during the week. My limited experience of ICANN meetings is that many people wear many different hats and are regularly occupied during the week.

We also have a slot during the week.

Let’s work together to get these two activities, a one day workshop and a session during the week to be complementary and not too repetitive.

One option to consider is to have the weekday session provide a brief update generally, and a specific focus on Latin America for the remainder of the session.

Don

I expect that we’ll do something

...

On 21/04/2015, at 4:25 am, Anthony Harris <anthonyrharris@gmail.com> wrote:

Don,

With regards to the full day workshop on the Sunday of the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, I would simply suggest that the choice of day is unfortunate.

If the objective is to address the workshop to ICANN regulars, many are still straggling in on Sunday after a long airflight to Argentina.

If the objective is to engage local and regional people who could be instrumental in fixing UA non-resolving problems, Sunday is not a day most of them would dedicate to come to a workshop on something they are most probably unaware of.

I would recommend a 4 hour workshop on the Thursday morning, before the Public Forum, or on the Friday morning, one hour each for the four groups working in the UASG.

If the workshop can take place on a weekday, I can commit to involve the overall network of contacts in LAC that I have access to, and am sure the ICANN LAC VP (Rodrigo de la Parra) and the ICANN LAC Strategy Group would be interested in assisting this effort.

IMHO we need to bring to the workshop:

- The ISP and Connectivity Community (complaints of UA non-resolving TLDs will land up on their call centers.) - The software development industry clusters and associations, including APPs developers and interactive online portal developers and implementers. - University IT educators - The IT network equipment industry

Other suggestions on invitees are important.

In addition, and to avoid the workshop having an "exploratory" look and feel, we should be able to present specific instances of non-resolving TLDs as reported by affected registries (e.g.Donuts - problems with home banking online), that have been diagnosed and acted upon all the way to resolution. Two or three examples would suffice, and are essential for clear understanding of what UA is trying to achieve.

Tony Harris

On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org> wrote: It only seems like it’s been quiet…

Here’s an update of some of what’s been happening in the UASG world:

· Project Group Coordinators that have been confirmed so far…

o Top Line Issues – Brent London

o Community Outreach – Rich Merdinger and Christian Dawson

o Internationalisation – Dusan Stojicevic and Dennis Tan

o Measurement and Monitoring – still to be determined

· A workshop proposal has been submitted to the IGF. This is co-sponsored by The DNA and the UASG

· A workshop proposal has been submitted to the APRIGF (Asia Pacific Regional IGF)

· The UA Wiki Page has been updated - https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444

· There has been some discussion on the Community Outreach Project Group mailing list about things that the group can do. Please continue to make contribution there.

· An outline for a quarterly newsletter has been established. We’re currently looking for a couple of case studies. Please let me know directly if you have some ideas.

Now that three out of the four Project Groups have coordinators these groups will start work on clarifying the scope, coming up with ideas to do in the next twelve months, and starting to work.

We’ve also booked space for a full-day workshop on the Sunday during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. Please share what you would like in this workshop.

Don

You caught my attention when you included "University IT educators" below 😄 I would certainly be interested to know of any University IT Educator that is currently educating students on the topic of IDNs. (Am I really the only such person? I hope not) If any of you do encounter any University IT Educator that expresses interest in educating people on the topic of IDNs then I am more than happy to share my notes and experiences with such educators. André Schappo On 20 Apr 2015, at 17:25, Anthony Harris wrote: Don, With regards to the full day workshop on the Sunday of the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires, I would simply suggest that the choice of day is unfortunate. If the objective is to address the workshop to ICANN regulars, many are still straggling in on Sunday after a long airflight to Argentina. If the objective is to engage local and regional people who could be instrumental in fixing UA non-resolving problems, Sunday is not a day most of them would dedicate to come to a workshop on something they are most probably unaware of. I would recommend a 4 hour workshop on the Thursday morning, before the Public Forum, or on the Friday morning, one hour each for the four groups working in the UASG. If the workshop can take place on a weekday, I can commit to involve the overall network of contacts in LAC that I have access to, and am sure the ICANN LAC VP (Rodrigo de la Parra) and the ICANN LAC Strategy Group would be interested in assisting this effort. IMHO we need to bring to the workshop: - The ISP and Connectivity Community (complaints of UA non-resolving TLDs will land up on their call centers.) - The software development industry clusters and associations, including APPs developers and interactive online portal developers and implementers. - University IT educators - The IT network equipment industry Other suggestions on invitees are important. In addition, and to avoid the workshop having an "exploratory" look and feel, we should be able to present specific instances of non-resolving TLDs as reported by affected registries (e.g.Donuts - problems with home banking online), that have been diagnosed and acted upon all the way to resolution. Two or three examples would suffice, and are essential for clear understanding of what UA is trying to achieve. Tony Harris On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 5:22 PM, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote: It only seems like it’s been quiet… Here’s an update of some of what’s been happening in the UASG world: · Project Group Coordinators that have been confirmed so far… o Top Line Issues – Brent London o Community Outreach – Rich Merdinger and Christian Dawson o Internationalisation – Dusan Stojicevic and Dennis Tan o Measurement and Monitoring – still to be determined · A workshop proposal has been submitted to the IGF. This is co-sponsored by The DNA and the UASG · A workshop proposal has been submitted to the APRIGF (Asia Pacific Regional IGF) · The UA Wiki Page has been updated - https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=47255444 · There has been some discussion on the Community Outreach Project Group mailing list about things that the group can do. Please continue to make contribution there. · An outline for a quarterly newsletter has been established. We’re currently looking for a couple of case studies. Please let me know directly if you have some ideas. Now that three out of the four Project Groups have coordinators these groups will start work on clarifying the scope, coming up with ideas to do in the next twelve months, and starting to work. We’ve also booked space for a full-day workshop on the Sunday during the ICANN meeting in Buenos Aires. Please share what you would like in this workshop. Don 羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊羊 http://twitter.com/andreschappo http://schappo.blogspot.co.uk http://weibo.com/andreschappo