Re: [UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance now on Wikipedia...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Acceptance
Looks really good. Actually, having now seen your business card, I have another suggestion😁 Blue is a colour that most computer users would associate with links. I have been in computing since the beginning of the web. Blue as a link colour is ingrained in my thinking and mouse movements. So much so that documents which highlight non-link text in blue really throw me. Without consciously thinking about the text that is highlighted in blue, I am expecting it to be a link. And without reading the text that is highlighted in blue I am expecting it to be a link. This is all happening subconsciously. Only once I focus and think about it consciously do I realise that the blue is being used to highlight ordinary text and it does not indicate a link. Thankfully not many documents use blue to highlight non-link text because I think I would find that quite annoying. So, my suggestion is to colour blue the email and web links in the bottom right hand corner of your business card, rather than white. It then, at a glance, makes it more obvious that these are links. Approx 6 hours to go to the new year here in England, so, Happy New Year Everyone André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 16:53, Dr. Ajay DATA <ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@data.in>> wrote: Andre.. well said.. this is exactly the way we present on our business cards .. see on the right-bottom of the card.. its in Hindi.. Thanks. On 30 December 2017 22:05:39 GMT+05:30, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: I have just worked how to properly present IDNs in Apple Mail. By properly present I mean without any ASCII, so no https:// or www Korea NIC ➜ 한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> Korea University ➜ 고려대학교.한국<http://xn--299a9hr4mn4fgs6b.xn--3e0b707e/> André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:18, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: Really good to see UA on wikipedia. It feels like UA has made the mainstream. 2 suggestions:- 1️⃣ In the wikipedia article there are indirect references to https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/> eg https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/UASG-Report-UASG016.pdf I think there should be a direct reference to uasg home page in the wikipedia article ie https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/> 2️⃣ drop the www — eg in the wikipedia article there is the link https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en I suggest using https://icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en instead. My experience is that the majority of people think the initial www is necessary but in the majority of web addresses the www is not necessary. My reasoning is that having the www prefix is contrary to IDNs because one then has mixed scripts in an IDN. Take Korea NIC. Their IDN is https://한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> They do support https://www.한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://www.xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> but they do not make the www necessary and they do not redirect to the www form. Now, what I have written is also contradictory because I have used https:// so that my Apple Mail App will linkify. When I put links in my webpages I would only display to users 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 My hope for the future is that linkification will become more sophisticated and be able linkify 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 without the need for www or https:// thus resulting, in this case, a fully korean hangeul domain name. So, I suggest the working practice — when possible (which I think is most of the time), drop both the www and https:// when presenting the domain name to end users. André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 08:15, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote: A nice way to end a fairly productive year. André Schappo https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk<https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/> https://twitter.com/andreschappo https://weibo.com/andreschappo https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/computer-science-curriculum-internat... -- Sent from my Android device with XGenPlus. <20171230_222110.jpg>
Good suggestion. Please Universally Accept my Happy New Year Wishes .. its12:40am in India. Best wishes. Thanks. On 31 December 2017 23:28:01 GMT+05:30, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk> wrote:
Looks really good.
Actually, having now seen your business card, I have another suggestion😁
Blue is a colour that most computer users would associate with links. I have been in computing since the beginning of the web. Blue as a link colour is ingrained in my thinking and mouse movements. So much so that documents which highlight non-link text in blue really throw me. Without consciously thinking about the text that is highlighted in blue, I am expecting it to be a link. And without reading the text that is highlighted in blue I am expecting it to be a link. This is all happening subconsciously. Only once I focus and think about it consciously do I realise that the blue is being used to highlight ordinary text and it does not indicate a link. Thankfully not many documents use blue to highlight non-link text because I think I would find that quite annoying.
So, my suggestion is to colour blue the email and web links in the bottom right hand corner of your business card, rather than white. It then, at a glance, makes it more obvious that these are links.
Approx 6 hours to go to the new year here in England, so, Happy New Year Everyone
André Schappo
On 30 Dec 2017, at 16:53, Dr. Ajay DATA <ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@data.in>> wrote:
Andre.. well said.. this is exactly the way we present on our business cards .. see on the right-bottom of the card.. its in Hindi..
Thanks.
On 30 December 2017 22:05:39 GMT+05:30, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: I have just worked how to properly present IDNs in Apple Mail. By properly present I mean without any ASCII, so no https:// or www
Korea NIC ➜ 한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> Korea University ➜ 고려대학교.한국<http://xn--299a9hr4mn4fgs6b.xn--3e0b707e/>
André Schappo
On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:18, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote:
Really good to see UA on wikipedia. It feels like UA has made the mainstream.
2 suggestions:-
1️⃣ In the wikipedia article there are indirect references to https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/> eg https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/UASG-Report-UASG016.pdf I think there should be a direct reference to uasg home page in the wikipedia article ie https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/>
2️⃣ drop the www — eg in the wikipedia article there is the link https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en I suggest using https://icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en instead. My experience is that the majority of people think the initial www is necessary but in the majority of web addresses the www is not necessary. My reasoning is that having the www prefix is contrary to IDNs because one then has mixed scripts in an IDN. Take Korea NIC. Their IDN is https://한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> They do support https://www.한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://www.xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> but they do not make the www necessary and they do not redirect to the www form.
Now, what I have written is also contradictory because I have used https:// so that my Apple Mail App will linkify. When I put links in my webpages I would only display to users 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 My hope for the future is that linkification will become more sophisticated and be able linkify 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 without the need for www or https:// thus resulting, in this case, a fully korean hangeul domain name.
So, I suggest the working practice — when possible (which I think is most of the time), drop both the www and https:// when presenting the domain name to end users.
André Schappo
On 30 Dec 2017, at 08:15, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote:
A nice way to end a fairly productive year.
André Schappo https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk<https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/> https://twitter.com/andreschappo https://weibo.com/andreschappo https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/computer-science-curriculum-internat...
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Happy new year - already happened in continental Europe, one minute to go in UK r On 31.12.2017, at 18:58, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: Looks really good. Actually, having now seen your business card, I have another suggestion😁 Blue is a colour that most computer users would associate with links. I have been in computing since the beginning of the web. Blue as a link colour is ingrained in my thinking and mouse movements. So much so that documents which highlight non-link text in blue really throw me. Without consciously thinking about the text that is highlighted in blue, I am expecting it to be a link. And without reading the text that is highlighted in blue I am expecting it to be a link. This is all happening subconsciously. Only once I focus and think about it consciously do I realise that the blue is being used to highlight ordinary text and it does not indicate a link. Thankfully not many documents use blue to highlight non-link text because I think I would find that quite annoying. So, my suggestion is to colour blue the email and web links in the bottom right hand corner of your business card, rather than white. It then, at a glance, makes it more obvious that these are links. Approx 6 hours to go to the new year here in England, so, Happy New Year Everyone André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 16:53, Dr. Ajay DATA <ajay@data.in<mailto:ajay@data.in>> wrote: Andre.. well said.. this is exactly the way we present on our business cards .. see on the right-bottom of the card.. its in Hindi.. Thanks. On 30 December 2017 22:05:39 GMT+05:30, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: I have just worked how to properly present IDNs in Apple Mail. By properly present I mean without any ASCII, so no https:// or www Korea NIC ➜ 한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> Korea University ➜ 고려대학교.한국<http://xn--299a9hr4mn4fgs6b.xn--3e0b707e/> André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 11:18, Andre Schappo <A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk<mailto:A.Schappo@lboro.ac.uk>> wrote: Really good to see UA on wikipedia. It feels like UA has made the mainstream. 2 suggestions:- 1️⃣ In the wikipedia article there are indirect references to https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/> eg https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/UASG-Report-UASG016.pdf I think there should be a direct reference to uasg home page in the wikipedia article ie https://uasg.tech<https://uasg.tech/> 2️⃣ drop the www — eg in the wikipedia article there is the link https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en I suggest using https://icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en instead. My experience is that the majority of people think the initial www is necessary but in the majority of web addresses the www is not necessary. My reasoning is that having the www prefix is contrary to IDNs because one then has mixed scripts in an IDN. Take Korea NIC. Their IDN is https://한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> They do support https://www.한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://www.xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e/> but they do not make the www necessary and they do not redirect to the www form. Now, what I have written is also contradictory because I have used https:// so that my Apple Mail App will linkify. When I put links in my webpages I would only display to users 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 My hope for the future is that linkification will become more sophisticated and be able linkify 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 without the need for www or https:// thus resulting, in this case, a fully korean hangeul domain name. So, I suggest the working practice — when possible (which I think is most of the time), drop both the www and https:// when presenting the domain name to end users. André Schappo On 30 Dec 2017, at 08:15, Don Hollander <don.hollander@icann.org<mailto:don.hollander@icann.org>> wrote: A nice way to end a fairly productive year. André Schappo https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk<https://schappo.blogspot.co.uk/> https://twitter.com/andreschappo https://weibo.com/andreschappo https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/computer-science-curriculum-internat... -- Sent from my Android device with XGenPlus. <20171230_222110.jpg>
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