Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
Please avoid positing on all mailing lists. Consolidated Updates by WG Chairs or UA Chair is enough. Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:37, Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary
www.indiaig.in
Hi, Please share your details as we are not able to find who you represent and how you are the part of UA lists. Harish On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Steve Bens <stevejobsietf@protonmail.com> wrote:
Please avoid positing on all mailing lists. Consolidated Updates by WG Chairs or UA Chair is enough.
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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:37, Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
-- *Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
Dear Steve, Please allow us and share your contribution to UA. Harish On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:50 AM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Please share your details as we are not able to find who you represent and how you are the part of UA lists.
Harish
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Steve Bens <stevejobsietf@protonmail.com> wrote:
Please avoid positing on all mailing lists. Consolidated Updates by WG Chairs or UA Chair is enough.
Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email.
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:37, Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
--
*Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
-- *Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
| | | | | Harish, Now what you have done, all these so many email with crossposting on various mailing list in inappropriate language is this not breach ofthe expected standard of behaviour? Who are we to ask anyone such things andabout contributions to UA etc. Well if someone has raised concern it good to accept andcorrect the mistake instead of reacting like this. Dusan has also saidthat you should not use ICANN, you says “Do you think I want to represent ICANNand ask people why one wants to do it?” well see your various profiles overtwitter, wiki and news you shared in past everywhere you are claiming yourself“UA Ambassador ICANN” if someone is suggesting you some correction it is betterfor you and UA that you accept and not over react. Take care Dimple | | | | | | Yahoo Mail stationery | | On Saturday, 16 November, 2019, 4:24:06 AM GMT, Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote: Dear Steve, Please allow us and share your contribution to UA. Harish On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:50 AM Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, Please share your details as we are not able to find who you represent and how you are the part of UA lists. Harish On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Steve Bens <stevejobsietf@protonmail.com> wrote: Please avoid positing on all mailing lists. Consolidated Updates by WG Chairs or UA Chair is enough. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:37, Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize thesession/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk onUniversal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG– Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group ofInstitutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshopon Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in -- Thanks, Harish Chowdhary, Technology Analyst www.indiaig.in -- Thanks, Harish Chowdhary, Technology Analyst www.indiaig.in _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
+1 Dimple/Dusan Harish do avoid cross posting on various mailing list and use of inappropriate language as it is also not a expected standard of behaviour. If you think you are only one contributing in UA then may i ask you after so many workshops in your regions where UA stands in India Presently, even the registry you claim to work for NIXI itself is still not UA ready. Which India service provider or company has come forward post these workshops and said they have become UA ready? Its easy to raise finger on someone for its contribution but please have a self assessment first. The community is jointly working hard for UA globally and we all have long way to go. Sylvia On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:49 AM dimple sharma via UA-comms < ua-comms@icann.org> wrote:
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Harish,
Now what you have done, all these so many email with cross posting on various mailing list in inappropriate language is this not breach of the expected standard of behaviour? Who are we to ask anyone such things and about contributions to UA etc.
Well if someone has raised concern it good to accept and correct the mistake instead of reacting like this. Dusan has also said that you should not use ICANN, you says “Do you think I want to represent ICANN and ask people why one wants to do it?” well see your various profiles over twitter, wiki and news you shared in past everywhere you are claiming yourself “UA Ambassador ICANN” if someone is suggesting you some correction it is better for you and UA that you accept and not over react.
Take care
Dimple
[image: Paperless Post] <https://www.paperlesspost.com/ystationery?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yah...> Yahoo Mail stationery <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/features/stationery> On Saturday, 16 November, 2019, 4:24:06 AM GMT, Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Steve,
Please allow us and share your contribution to UA.
Harish
On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:50 AM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Please share your details as we are not able to find who you represent and how you are the part of UA lists.
Harish
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 3:07 AM Steve Bens <stevejobsietf@protonmail.com> wrote:
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‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:37, Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
--
*Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
--
*Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
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I´d try to avoid the impression to be an official ICANN representative. All the be best, Lars Von: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> im Auftrag von Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> Datum: Samstag, 9. November 2019 um 19:08 An: "ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, "ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org> Cc: "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> Betreff: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in<http://www.indiaig.in>
Noted. On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 1:57 PM Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> wrote:
I´d try to avoid the impression to be an official ICANN representative.
All the be best,
Lars
*Von: *UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> im Auftrag von Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> *Datum: *Samstag, 9. November 2019 um 19:08 *An: *"ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, " ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org> *Cc: *"ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> *Betreff: *[UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary
www.indiaig.in
-- *Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. [image: image.png] Harry On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
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Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. Thank you. Von: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> Datum: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 An: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> Cc: "ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, "ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. [cid:image001.png@01D59BCC.93FA5D70] Harry On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com<mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in<http://www.indiaig.in> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Dear all, As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap. The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious. So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again. Cheers, Dusan From: UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lars Steffen Sent: 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 To: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. Thank you. Von: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com <mailto:internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> > Datum: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 An: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com <mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> >, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de <mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de> > Cc: "ua-ambassador@icann.org <mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org> " <ua-ambassador@icann.org <mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org> >, "ua-comms@icann.org <mailto:ua-comms@icann.org> " <ua-comms@icann.org <mailto:ua-comms@icann.org> >, "ua-discuss@icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> " <ua-discuss@icann.org <mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org> > Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. Harry On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com <mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> > wrote: Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: <https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga> https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in <http://www.indiaig.in> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi Dusan, Please suggest what can be done in response to breach of the expected standard of behaviour? Do you think I want to represent ICANN and ask people why one wants to do it? Harish Chowdhary On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:34 PM Dušan Stojičević <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap.
The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious.
So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again.
Cheers,
Dusan
*From:* UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Lars Steffen *Sent:* 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 *To:* Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> *Cc:* ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India
Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior.
Thank you.
*Von: *Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> *Datum: *Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 *An: *Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>, Lars Steffen < lars.steffen@eco.de> *Cc: *"ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, " ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" < ua-discuss@icann.org> *Betreff: *Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India
Harish
Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have.
Harry
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary
www.indiaig.in
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I too was surprised at the intemperate language used for Harish who is a very active and enthusiastic individual. Many of us arrived at UASG from our ICANN work, and the confusion cold be genuine. But this should not attract an unacceptable behavior. Regards, Prof Udaya Narayana SinghChair-Professor & Dean, Faculty of Arts Amity University HaryanaPachgaon-Manesar, Dt Gurgaon PIN 122413Cell 9434050218; 9830132234Official ID: unsingh@ggn.amity.eduWeb-site: www.udayanarayana.com On Saturday, 16 November, 2019, 9:37:30 am IST, Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Dusan, Please suggest what can be done in response to breach of the expected standard of behaviour? Do you think I want to represent ICANN and ask people why one wants to do it? Harish Chowdhary On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:34 PM Dušan Stojičević <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote: Dear all, As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap. The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious. So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again. Cheers, Dusan From: UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lars Steffen Sent: 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 To: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. Thank you. Von: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> Datum: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 An: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de> Cc: "ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, "ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" <ua-discuss@icann.org> Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. Harry On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote: Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. _______________________________________________ UA-Ambassador mailing list UA-Ambassador@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-ambassador _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on. -- Thanks, Harish Chowdhary, Technology Analyst www.indiaig.in _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Ha ha, if you are surprised you haven’t been on the lists long enough! We attract our fair share of lurkers using fake identities who contribute nothing but complaints. This is a new sort of complaint, but definitely in line with previous complaints, most of which are ad hominem in nature. As a general rule, if someone has an “English-seeming” email name (“Steve”, “Mike”, etc), yet writes as if they are using a Troll-to-English machine translator, it is just a matter of time before they start making a pest of themselves on the lists. From: UA-comms <ua-comms-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Udaya Narayana Singh Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:33 PM To: Dušan Stojičević <dusan@dukes.in.rs>; Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> Cc: ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-comms] [UA-Ambassador] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India I too was surprised at the intemperate language used for Harish who is a very active and enthusiastic individual. Many of us arrived at UASG from our ICANN work, and the confusion cold be genuine. But this should not attract an unacceptable behavior. Regards, Prof Udaya Narayana Singh Chair-Professor & Dean, Faculty of Arts Amity University Haryana Pachgaon-Manesar, Dt Gurgaon PIN 122413 Cell 9434050218; 9830132234 Official ID: unsingh@ggn.amity.edu<mailto:unsingh@ggn.amity.edu> Web-site: www.udayanarayana.com<http://www.udayanarayana.com> On Saturday, 16 November, 2019, 9:37:30 am IST, Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com<mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Dusan, Please suggest what can be done in response to breach of the expected standard of behaviour? Do you think I want to represent ICANN and ask people why one wants to do it? Harish Chowdhary On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:34 PM Dušan Stojičević <dusan@dukes.in.rs<mailto:dusan@dukes.in.rs>> wrote: Dear all, As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap. The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious. So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again. Cheers, Dusan From: UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org>] On Behalf Of Lars Steffen Sent: 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 To: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com<mailto:internetsafetyweek@gmail.com>> Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>; ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>; ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. Thank you. Von: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com<mailto:internetsafetyweek@gmail.com>> Datum: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 An: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com<mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>>, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de<mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de>> Cc: "ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>" <ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>>, "ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org>" <ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org>>, "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. 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Harish So sorry what Dusan was able to sense you were not, you cannot represent on behalf of ICANN without explicit approval. You are not authorized or allowed official of ICANN, its copyright abuse and IP infringement. Everyone can decipher that to get the P.R., campaign and market attention, name of globally recognized association ICANN is purposely used which is completely an illicit act, recompenses are been taken which you may not get by merely using UASG. Thanks, Richard On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 9:37 AM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dusan,
Please suggest what can be done in response to breach of the expected standard of behaviour?
Do you think I want to represent ICANN and ask people why one wants to do it?
Harish Chowdhary
On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 9:34 PM Dušan Stojičević <dusan@dukes.in.rs> wrote:
Dear all,
As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap.
The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious.
So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again.
Cheers,
Dusan
*From:* UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Lars Steffen *Sent:* 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 *To:* Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> *Cc:* ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org *Subject:* Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India
Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior.
Thank you.
*Von: *Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> *Datum: *Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 *An: *Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>, Lars Steffen < lars.steffen@eco.de> *Cc: *"ua-ambassador@icann.org" <ua-ambassador@icann.org>, " ua-comms@icann.org" <ua-comms@icann.org>, "ua-discuss@icann.org" < ua-discuss@icann.org> *Betreff: *Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India
Harish
Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have.
Harry
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary
www.indiaig.in
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Regarding the complaint for Harish to stop posting on lists, and just let chairs and leadership do it: I completely disagree. I wish more people were posting their activities on our lists! From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> On Behalf Of Dušan Stojicevic Sent: Friday, November 15, 2019 8:04 AM To: 'Lars Steffen' <lars.steffen@eco.de>; 'Harry Jacob' <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com>; harish@nixi.in Cc: ua-ambassador@icann.org; ua-discuss@icann.org; ua-comms@icann.org Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Dear all, As a chairman of this WG, I agree with both of you, Lars and Jacob, and this is a mistake which Harish should try to correct asap. The difference between ICANN and UASG people is obvious. So, thanks for noticing, and it’s not going to happen again. Cheers, Dusan From: UA-comms [mailto:ua-comms-bounces@icann.org] On Behalf Of Lars Steffen Sent: 15. новембар 2019. 15:52 To: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com<mailto:internetsafetyweek@gmail.com>> Cc: ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>; ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>; ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Mr Jacob, There is no need to lose one´s temper and to ignore the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. Thank you. Von: Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com<mailto:internetsafetyweek@gmail.com>> Datum: Freitag, 15. November 2019 um 13:21 An: Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com<mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>>, Lars Steffen <lars.steffen@eco.de<mailto:lars.steffen@eco.de>> Cc: "ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>" <ua-ambassador@icann.org<mailto:ua-ambassador@icann.org>>, "ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org>" <ua-comms@icann.org<mailto:ua-comms@icann.org>>, "ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>" <ua-discuss@icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss@icann.org>> Betreff: Re: [UA-comms] Universal Acceptance workshops/sessions in India Harish Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have. [cid:image001.png@01D59DFA.2CF646E0] Harry On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary <intern3tgovernance@gmail.com<mailto:intern3tgovernance@gmail.com>> wrote: Dear All, It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fruralisocsig.org%2Fict-2019-shivamogga&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C2b20bb745e534a7ae18b08d769e58a1d%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637094306920218748&sdata=JVqPiDvKUerRgDx9wWlexg%2FAayUoiNfpZQRIGtFirQs%3D&reserved=0> ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India Poster's are attached for the same. Thanks, Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indiaig...> _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fprivacy%2Fpolicy&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C2b20bb745e534a7ae18b08d769e58a1d%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637094306920228745&sdata=3LU%2FRylDqmPviTXWrve%2BBhqyUgpIINU8IfZfpWEuvCE%3D&reserved=0>) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.icann.org%2Fprivacy%2Ftos&data=02%7C01%7Cmarksv%40microsoft.com%7C2b20bb745e534a7ae18b08d769e58a1d%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637094306920238742&sdata=xPity%2F4fqtpd1LKKMYKP6xOhXrlv1XZU2FBNXlraqqA%3D&reserved=0>). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Dear All, Kindly maintain the UASG`s Expected Standards of Behavior. It is to be noted that you are only discouraging the efforts. I am only helping the UASG and its efforts. Nobody wants to show that one is ICANN. UA efforts are new and this mistake is not done by me at all. Is it that big mistake that you are breaching the expected standard of behaviour. *To err is human*. I hope you would understand. In case this language is used again and this inappropriate behaviour is repeated, would be raised to the appropriate forum. One of the Ambassador from India is also treated that way earlier last year. May I know the reason why?? I hope we would all work together and unitedly. Harish Chowhary On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 5:51 PM Harry Jacob <internetsafetyweek@gmail.com> wrote:
Harish
Inspite Lars warned not to evade the impression to be an official ICANN representative you are still exploiting utterly by positioning as “UA Ambassador ICANN”. Don’t you fathom that ICANN and UASG are dissimilar? Can’t UASG leadership make people like you understand such small thing? God Forbid what kind of Ambassador UA have.
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Harry
On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:38 PM Harish Chowdhary < intern3tgovernance@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
It is to inform that I am going to organize the session/workshop on Universal Acceptance as per the following schedule
i. 10th November 2019 – A brief talk on Universal Acceptance during the second Edition of ICT by ISOC Rural Development SIG – Registration
Link: https://ruralisocsig.org/ict-2019-shivamogga
ii. 13th November 2019 – At MIT Group of Institutions, Moradabad, Uttar Pradesh, India
iii. 23rd November 2019 – A Full-day Workshop on Universal Acceptance including Code- Challenge at BIT-Mesra – Patna, Bihar, India
Poster's are attached for the same.
Thanks,
Harish Chowdhary www.indiaig.in
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-- *Thanks,Harish Chowdhary,Technology Analyst* www.indiaig.in
participants (11)
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dimple sharma -
Dušan Stojičević -
Harish Chowdhary -
Harry Jacob -
Lars Steffen -
Mark Svancarek (CELA) -
richard nims -
Steve Bens -
Sylvia Mantri -
Udaya Narayana Singh -
Yurii Kargapolov