If we are trying to encourage adoption, I’d avoid terms such as “simple and efficient” as those (understandably) scare many IT administrators as being too “black box” and marketing-oriented.

 

I think the concept that you are trying to convey is that “Punycode is a two-way encoding/decoding algorithm; if the message travels through a mail system that only understands ASCII, the original EAI can be restored from the Punycode representation.”

 

From: Jiankang Yao [mailto:yaojk@cnnic.cn]
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or we may just use the definition in the abstract of rfc3492,

 

  Punycode is a simple and efficient transfer encoding syntax designed
   for use with Internationalized Domain Names in Applications (IDNA).

 

 


Jiankang Yao

 

From: Don Hollander

Date: 2017-01-24 12:07

To: Stuart Stuple

CC: Mark Svancarek; yaojk; ua-eai@icann.org

Subject: Re: [UA-EAI] [Ext] RE: [UA-Coordination] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI

That it can convert from IDN to Punycode and from Punycode to IDN - that’s what we mean by bi-directional.

 

I would welcome suggestions for a better phrasing.

 

Don

 

On 24/01/2017, at 9:55 AM, Stuart Stuple <stuartst@exchange.microsoft.com> wrote:

 

What is meant by “bi-directional” in this context? I think you mean “can handle bi-directional domain names”. ASCII characters are inherently Left-to-right and hence never bidirectional.

 

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This is what I have now:

 

Punycode is an algorithm that converts a non-ASCII domain string into an ASCII string.  ASCII strings that have gone through the Punycode process can be identified by a prefix of xn--.   The Punycode algorithm is bi-directional.  Seehttps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3492[na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]

 

 

 

 

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Good catch.  The ACE prefix indicates to a parser that the following string is the Punycoded transformation of an IDNA-compatible Unicode string, but is not actually a part of that transformation.

 

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Hello,

 

  The definition

"Punycode is an algorithm that converts an IDN into an ASCII string that starts with xn--. The Punycode

algorithm is bi-directional. " needs some adjustment.

 

 

xn--abcdeddaa

where  "xn--" is a prefix and "abcdeddaa" is  output of the Punycode algorithm. So Punycode output does not include "xn--".

 

 

 

 

======================================following are texts from RFC5890===============================

" the string following "xn--" must be the valid output of the Punycode algorithm
                    and must be convertible into valid U-label form."

 

"An "A-label" is the ASCII-Compatible Encoding (ACE, see
      Section 2.3.2.5[tools.ietf.org][na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]) form of an IDNA-valid string.  It must be a
      complete label: IDNA is defined for labels, not for parts of them
      and not for complete domain names.  This means, by definition,
      that every A-label will begin with the IDNA ACE prefix, "xn--"
      (see Section 2.3.2.5[tools.ietf.org][na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]), followed by a string that is a valid output
      of the Punycode algorithm [RFC3492[tools.ietf.org][na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com]] and hence a maximum of 59
      ASCII characters in length. "

 


Jiankang Yao

 

From: Don Hollander

Date: 2017-01-22 17:33

Subject: [UA-Coordination] Revised UASG013 - Quick Guide to EAI

Last month I sent out a formatted Quick Guide to EAI.

 

This resulted in a number of comments from Ajay, Stuart, Mark, Lars & Dennis.

 

These enhancements were mostly focused on the Email Service Provider.

 

I have revised the source document which is attached.

 

And for reference, I’m also including the formatted earlier draft.

 

Could I please get any final comments by the end of this week (25th)?

 

Thanks.

 

Don

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Don Hollander

Universal Acceptance Steering Group

Skype: don_hollander

 

 

 

 

 

Don Hollander

Universal Acceptance Steering Group

Skype: don_hollander