Is UA-EAI meeting on 15. Feb 2022 cancelled? [was: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC]
I received this cancellation notice. I have a terrible time reading the calendar event notices for the working groups. I am not sure what they are trying to tell me. (I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a calendar event file.) I think this message is telling me that the UA EAI WG meeting on 15. February 2022 is cancelled. So, I have taken it off my calendar. If it turns out that I misunderstood the message, I apologise for missing the meeting. Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut@icann.org> CC: Samantha Mancia <samantha.mancia@icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg>, Biju Nair <bijun@aptech.ac.in>, Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com>, Maria Kolesnikova <masha@cctld.ru>, priyatoshjana@gmail.com <priyatoshjana@gmail.com>, shrutee23jun@gmail.com <shrutee23jun@gmail.com> Subject: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Topic: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Index: Ade1CO2fAo1YOfYLyUGtvi3rd+w+NQ== Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:19:29 +0000 Message-ID: <b261feb39723496495c233830e2c65aa@icann.org> x-ms-exchange-calendar-series-instance-id: BAAAAIIA4AB0xbcQGoLgCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMQAAAHZDYWwtVWlkAQAAADlDNjU2REU5LTVCMEQtNEYwMC04NTgxLUIwQ0MxMzdCMDY0QQA= Seda Akbulut has canceled this event: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Title: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Location: https://icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGVk9GWFRKMlU2NmRDTGV0Zz09 When: Occurs every Tuesday effective 2022-02-15 for 46 times from 07:30 to 08:30. UA EAI WG recurring meetings Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGVk9GWFRKMlU2NmRDTGV0Zz09 Meeting ID: 998 9295 2715 Passcode: 6fqLzRzLT^ Meeting ID: 998 9295 2715 Passcode: 7757223200 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/aNxLEcFE8
Hi Jim, We will have a meeting today, on 15 Feb at 1530 UTC. It is not cancelled. Did you not receive any other invite replacing this cancellation? I can resend it but you can check the calendar or mails first. It happened to some other people but they could locate the invite for recurring meeting. Let me know if you cannot find anything. Best regards, Seda Akbulut From: UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jim DeLaHunt via UA-EAI <ua-eai@icann.org> Reply-To: Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com> Date: 15 February 2022 Tuesday 11:50 To: uaeai <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: [UA-EAI] Is UA-EAI meeting on 15. Feb 2022 cancelled? [was: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC] I received this cancellation notice. I have a terrible time reading the calendar event notices for the working groups. I am not sure what they are trying to tell me. (I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a calendar event file.) I think this message is telling me that the UA EAI WG meeting on 15. February 2022 is cancelled. So, I have taken it off my calendar. If it turns out that I misunderstood the message, I apologise for missing the meeting. Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut@icann.org><mailto:seda.akbulut@icann.org> CC: Samantha Mancia <samantha.mancia@icann.org><mailto:samantha.mancia@icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org><mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg><mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg>, Biju Nair <bijun@aptech.ac.in><mailto:bijun@aptech.ac.in>, Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com><mailto:list+uasg@jdlh.com>, Maria Kolesnikova <masha@cctld.ru><mailto:masha@cctld.ru>, priyatoshjana@gmail.com<mailto:priyatoshjana@gmail.com> <priyatoshjana@gmail.com><mailto:priyatoshjana@gmail.com>, shrutee23jun@gmail.com<mailto:shrutee23jun@gmail.com> <shrutee23jun@gmail.com><mailto:shrutee23jun@gmail.com> Subject: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Topic: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Index: Ade1CO2fAo1YOfYLyUGtvi3rd+w+NQ== Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:19:29 +0000 Message-ID: <b261feb39723496495c233830e2c65aa@icann.org><mailto:b261feb39723496495c233830e2c65aa@icann.org> x-ms-exchange-calendar-series-instance-id: BAAAAIIA4AB0xbcQGoLgCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMQAAAHZDYWwtVWlkAQAAADlDNjU2REU5LTVCMEQtNEYwMC04NTgxLUIwQ0MxMzdCMDY0QQA= Seda Akbulut has canceled this event: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Title: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Location: https://icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGVk9GWFRKMlU2NmRDTGV0Zz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGV...> When: Occurs every Tuesday effective 2022-02-15 for 46 times from 07:30 to 08:30. UA EAI WG recurring meetings Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Join Zoom Meeting https://icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGVk9GWFRKMlU2NmRDTGV0Zz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGV...> Meeting ID: 998 9295 2715 Passcode: 6fqLzRzLT^ Meeting ID: 998 9295 2715 Passcode: 7757223200 Find your local number: https://icann.zoom.us/u/aNxLEcFE8 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/u/aNxLEcFE8__;!!PtGJab4!osW...>
Hello, Seda: On 2022-02-15 01:08, Seda Akbulut wrote:
Hi Jim,
We will have a meeting today, on 15 Feb at 1530 UTC.
I am disappointed to have missed the meeting. My apologies.
It is not cancelled. Did you not receive any other invite replacing this cancellation?
I receive several messages containing calendar notifications. It is difficult for me to make sense of them, since they same to either repeat what we already know about normal meetings, or to contradict what we normally know. It is difficult for me to combine these notifications in my head, and understand what is happening and what is cancelled.
I can resend it but you can check the calendar or mails first.
I am pretty sure that there are no notifications caught in my spam traps. There is no software connection from my email stream to my calendar. When a calendar notification arrives, I read it as a human being, and try to understand its meaning. As I have said before, this is difficult. I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the sending calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a received calendar notification. I am guessing that some people use a combined email and calendar application. The application reads the calendar notifications and makes changes to the calendar. The human doesn't need to read the notification. That is not the system which I have.
It happened to some other people but they could locate the invite for recurring meeting. Let me know if you cannot find anything.
Well, I received: 1. A notification for UA EAI WG meetings every Tuesday, sent Wed, 9 Feb 2022 14:45:11 +0000. 2. A notification cancelling UA EAI WG meetings every Tuesday, sent Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:19:29 +0000. I combine them in my head and… I get confused. What would help is if every calendar notification email had a brief human-readable explanation of what is changing. e.g. "Restating the existing meeting schedule", "cancelling just the occurrence on 22. February", "moving to a different time, but remaining on Tuesdays", "moving to a new Zoom meeting number, but keeping the meeting times". Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt
Best regards,
Seda Akbulut
*From: *UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jim DeLaHunt via UA-EAI <ua-eai@icann.org> *Reply-To: *Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com> *Date: *15 February 2022 Tuesday 11:50 *To: *uaeai <ua-eai@icann.org> *Subject: *[UA-EAI] Is UA-EAI meeting on 15. Feb 2022 cancelled? [was: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC]
I received this cancellation notice. I have a terrible time reading the calendar event notices for the working groups. I am not sure what they are trying to tell me. (I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a calendar event file.)
I think this message is telling me that the UA EAI WG meeting on 15. February 2022 is cancelled. So, I have taken it off my calendar. If it turns out that I misunderstood the message, I apologise for missing the meeting.
Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt
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Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut@icann.org> <mailto:seda.akbulut@icann.org>
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Samantha Mancia <samantha.mancia@icann.org> <mailto:samantha.mancia@icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org> <mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg> <mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg>, Biju Nair <bijun@aptech.ac.in> <mailto:bijun@aptech.ac.in>, Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com> <mailto:list+uasg@jdlh.com>, Maria Kolesnikova <masha@cctld.ru> <mailto:masha@cctld.ru>, priyatoshjana@gmail.com <priyatoshjana@gmail.com> <mailto:priyatoshjana@gmail.com>, shrutee23jun@gmail.com <shrutee23jun@gmail.com> <mailto:shrutee23jun@gmail.com>
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Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC
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UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC
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Seda Akbulut has canceled this event: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC
*Title:*
Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC
*Location:*
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*When:*
Occurs every Tuesday effective 2022-02-15 for 46 times from 07:30 to 08:30.
UA EAI WG recurring meetings
Tuesdays at 1530 UTC
Join Zoom Meeting
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Dear Jim, I am sorry to hear about the confusion it has caused. I resent the invite to your email address directly. There is no change in time and date. EAI meetings are recurring every Tuesday at 15:30. It should appear in your calendar with this information. Let me know if you need anything else. Best regards, Seda Akbulut From: Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com> Date: 16 February 2022 Wednesday 05:15 To: Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut@icann.org> Cc: uaeai <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: [Ext] Re: [UA-EAI] Is UA-EAI meeting on 15. Feb 2022 cancelled? [was: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC] Hello, Seda: On 2022-02-15 01:08, Seda Akbulut wrote: Hi Jim, We will have a meeting today, on 15 Feb at 1530 UTC. I am disappointed to have missed the meeting. My apologies. It is not cancelled. Did you not receive any other invite replacing this cancellation? I receive several messages containing calendar notifications. It is difficult for me to make sense of them, since they same to either repeat what we already know about normal meetings, or to contradict what we normally know. It is difficult for me to combine these notifications in my head, and understand what is happening and what is cancelled. I can resend it but you can check the calendar or mails first. I am pretty sure that there are no notifications caught in my spam traps. There is no software connection from my email stream to my calendar. When a calendar notification arrives, I read it as a human being, and try to understand its meaning. As I have said before, this is difficult. I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the sending calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a received calendar notification. I am guessing that some people use a combined email and calendar application. The application reads the calendar notifications and makes changes to the calendar. The human doesn't need to read the notification. That is not the system which I have. It happened to some other people but they could locate the invite for recurring meeting. Let me know if you cannot find anything. Well, I received: 1. A notification for UA EAI WG meetings every Tuesday, sent Wed, 9 Feb 2022 14:45:11 +0000. 2. A notification cancelling UA EAI WG meetings every Tuesday, sent Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:19:29 +0000. I combine them in my head and… I get confused. What would help is if every calendar notification email had a brief human-readable explanation of what is changing. e.g. "Restating the existing meeting schedule", "cancelling just the occurrence on 22. February", "moving to a different time, but remaining on Tuesdays", "moving to a new Zoom meeting number, but keeping the meeting times". Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt Best regards, Seda Akbulut From: UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org><mailto:ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jim DeLaHunt via UA-EAI <ua-eai@icann.org><mailto:ua-eai@icann.org> Reply-To: Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com><mailto:list+uasg@jdlh.com> Date: 15 February 2022 Tuesday 11:50 To: uaeai <ua-eai@icann.org><mailto:ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: [UA-EAI] Is UA-EAI meeting on 15. Feb 2022 cancelled? [was: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC] I received this cancellation notice. I have a terrible time reading the calendar event notices for the working groups. I am not sure what they are trying to tell me. (I interpret this difficulty as a combination of the calendar program being bad at generating a clear message, and my email client being bad at displaying the contents of a calendar event file.) I think this message is telling me that the UA EAI WG meeting on 15. February 2022 is cancelled. So, I have taken it off my calendar. If it turns out that I misunderstood the message, I apologise for missing the meeting. Best regards, —Jim DeLaHunt -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Seda Akbulut <seda.akbulut@icann.org><mailto:seda.akbulut@icann.org> CC: Samantha Mancia <samantha.mancia@icann.org><mailto:samantha.mancia@icann.org>, Sarmad Hussain <sarmad.hussain@icann.org><mailto:sarmad.hussain@icann.org>, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <agalila@mcit.gov.eg><mailto:agalila@mcit.gov.eg>, Biju Nair <bijun@aptech.ac.in><mailto:bijun@aptech.ac.in>, Jim DeLaHunt <list+uasg@jdlh.com><mailto:list+uasg@jdlh.com>, Maria Kolesnikova <masha@cctld.ru><mailto:masha@cctld.ru>, priyatoshjana@gmail.com<mailto:priyatoshjana@gmail.com> <priyatoshjana@gmail.com><mailto:priyatoshjana@gmail.com>, shrutee23jun@gmail.com<mailto:shrutee23jun@gmail.com> <shrutee23jun@gmail.com><mailto:shrutee23jun@gmail.com> Subject: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Topic: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Thread-Index: Ade1CO2fAo1YOfYLyUGtvi3rd+w+NQ== Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 07:19:29 +0000 Message-ID: <b261feb39723496495c233830e2c65aa@icann.org><mailto:b261feb39723496495c233830e2c65aa@icann.org> x-ms-exchange-calendar-series-instance-id: BAAAAIIA4AB0xbcQGoLgCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMQAAAHZDYWwtVWlkAQAAADlDNjU2REU5LTVCMEQtNEYwMC04NTgxLUIwQ0MxMzdCMDY0QQA= Seda Akbulut has canceled this event: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Title: Canceled: UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC UA EAI WG Meetings - Tuesdays at 1530 UTC Location: https://icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGVk9GWFRKMlU2NmRDTGV0Zz09 [icann.zoom.us]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann.zoom.us/j/99892952715?pwd=ZHYrVlBGV...> When: Occurs every Tuesday effective 2022-02-15 for 46 times from 07:30 to 08:30. 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