Re: [UA-EAI] [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses
Hi, Lovely questions! That is to say, I can answer one of them in the positive! I’ve used the CZDS to do some work involving IDNs and it worked as I expected. If there’s anything that should work differently, I didn’t come across it. RDRS is okay as far as I know, but that’s a little artificial: You can’t have a Unicode mail address as contact address for a domain, so the RDRS simply doesn’t have to handle that. I’m afraid I can’t say anything about ICANN Portal. No one has mentioned any problems in my hearing, and people are usually quick to mention problems, so I’m hopeful. Please do try (and tell me about any and all problems). Arnt From: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 13:27 To: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org> Cc: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, "ua-eai@icann.org" <ua-eai@icann.org>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> Subject: [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses Hello Arnt, Do we know if CZDS and RDRS and ICANN Portal (Salesforce based) are supporting IDN emails? Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 22 Jan 2024, at 15:11, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote: Arnt ICANN like any other organisation is going to be reliant on software vendors and what they support. We are still finding vendors who don’t fully support IPv6, nevermind IDNs! Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ [blacknight.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.blacknight.com/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50e...> https://blacknight.blog/ [blacknight.blog]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/blacknight.blog/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAV...> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ [michele.blog]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/michele.blog/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAVKFs...> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ [ceo.hosting]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ceo.hosting/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAVKFsH...> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours. From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Arnt Gulbrandsen via UA-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 11:54 To: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, ua-eai@icann.org <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. Hi, And in case anyone wonders why it took so long: We had an incredible number of systems that needed testing and/or update. I knew that we had lots of automated systems to help with this process and that, but even so, I was astonished to hear that there were well over a hundred systems that process mail. Fewer needed actual changes as a result of testing, but then while my colleagues were pushing vendors to fix some of these things, other colleagues installed more new software. ICANN has fewer than 500 employees and its work isn’t really complex. I wonder how many systems process mail at big organisations. Arnt From: UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jiankang Yao via UA-EAI <ua-eai@icann.org> Reply to: Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 06:39 To: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, "ua-eai@icann.org" <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses Hello， ICANN has been working diligently to make all of its systems fully Universal Acceptance-ready and recently achieved a significant milestone: ICANN staff can now send emails to and receive emails from internationalized email addresses. https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/icann-universal-acceptance-update-sup... Good news! Best Regards ________________________________ Jiankang Yao _______________________________________________ UA-discuss mailing list UA-discuss@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
Hi, On second thoughts… please read my answer as saying that I haven’t come across any bugs and I haven’t heard about any. I don’t work day-to-day on any of those systems and the relevant colleagues will know things I don’t know. So it’s a positive outlook (at least I can’t reel off a list of known bugs) but not any sort of promise. Arnt From: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 14:56 Cc: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, "ua-eai@icann.org" <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: Re: [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses Hi, Lovely questions! That is to say, I can answer one of them in the positive! I’ve used the CZDS to do some work involving IDNs and it worked as I expected. If there’s anything that should work differently, I didn’t come across it. RDRS is okay as far as I know, but that’s a little artificial: You can’t have a Unicode mail address as contact address for a domain, so the RDRS simply doesn’t have to handle that. I’m afraid I can’t say anything about ICANN Portal. No one has mentioned any problems in my hearing, and people are usually quick to mention problems, so I’m hopeful. Please do try (and tell me about any and all problems). Arnt From: Maxim Alzoba <m.alzoba@gmail.com> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 13:27 To: Arnt Gulbrandsen <arnt.gulbrandsen@icann.org> Cc: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, "ua-eai@icann.org" <ua-eai@icann.org>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> Subject: [Ext] Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses Hello Arnt, Do we know if CZDS and RDRS and ICANN Portal (Salesforce based) are supporting IDN emails? Sincerely Yours, Maxim Alzoba Special projects manager, International Relations Department, FAITID Current UTC offset: +3.00 (.Moscow) On 22 Jan 2024, at 15:11, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via UA-discuss <ua-discuss@icann.org> wrote: Arnt ICANN like any other organisation is going to be reliant on software vendors and what they support. We are still finding vendors who don’t fully support IPv6, nevermind IDNs! Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ [blacknight.com]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.blacknight.com/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50e...> https://blacknight.blog/ [blacknight.blog]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/blacknight.blog/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAV...> Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ [michele.blog]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/michele.blog/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAVKFs...> Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/ [ceo.hosting]<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/ceo.hosting/__;!!PtGJab4!8GUpbX50eDAVKFsH...> ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours. From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Arnt Gulbrandsen via UA-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 11:54 To: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, ua-eai@icann.org <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: Re: [UA-discuss] [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Please use caution when opening attachments from unrecognised sources. Hi, And in case anyone wonders why it took so long: We had an incredible number of systems that needed testing and/or update. I knew that we had lots of automated systems to help with this process and that, but even so, I was astonished to hear that there were well over a hundred systems that process mail. Fewer needed actual changes as a result of testing, but then while my colleagues were pushing vendors to fix some of these things, other colleagues installed more new software. ICANN has fewer than 500 employees and its work isn’t really complex. I wonder how many systems process mail at big organisations. Arnt From: UA-EAI <ua-eai-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Jiankang Yao via UA-EAI <ua-eai@icann.org> Reply to: Jiankang Yao <yaojk@cnnic.cn> Date: Monday, 22 January 2024 at 06:39 To: ua-discuss <Ua-discuss@icann.org>, "ua-eai@icann.org" <ua-eai@icann.org> Subject: [UA-EAI] ICANN email system Supports the Internationalized Email Addresses Hello， ICANN has been working diligently to make all of its systems fully Universal Acceptance-ready and recently achieved a significant milestone: ICANN staff can now send emails to and receive emails from internationalized email addresses. https://www.icann.org/en/blogs/details/icann-universal-acceptance-update-sup... Good news! Best Regards ________________________________ Jiankang Yao _______________________________________________ UA-discuss mailing list UA-discuss@icann.org https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss _______________________________________________ By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.
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