Paul,

my understanding is that they are busy implementing...

(resent from correct sender address :-)-O)

el

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On 28 Oct 2015, 23:23 +0100, Paul Twomey <paul.twomey@argopacific.com>, wrote:
Eberhard

The process does not seem to have changed much http://www.iana.org/help/cctld-delegation  

:)

Paul

On 10/29/15 8:47 AM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
Paul,

I doubt that you will be helpful, since you still use the previous
terminology, which indicates you are not familiar with current
interpretation of policy...

And, though ICANN apparently was an enabler of your successor,
"recognizing" and/or "empowering" third parties is not the issue.

Even if it should be.

el

On 2015-10-28 22:39 , Paul Twomey wrote:
HI Niels

Thanks for your reply.

I think the best I can do is ask for some time on Friday to
explain the practical steps involved in changes of tld operator
(especially a cctld operator) both through requests for
redelegation and also requests for changes in the zone file
through the IANA process.  Because it is several of these where I
see ICANN being practically engaged in recognizing end empowering
a related party which could be guilty of human rights abuse.

As for the Ruggie Principles, let me point again to principle 13
and its commentary (and that of principle 19):

13.

The responsibility to respect human rights requires that business

enterprises:

(a)

Avoid causing or contributing to adverse human rights impacts

through their own activities, and address such impacts when they

occur;

(b)

Seek to prevent or mitigate adverse human rights impacts that are

*directly linked to their operations, products or services by
their *

**

*business relationships*, even if they have not contributed to
those

impacts.

(/Emphasis added - this is the nature of the IANA functions
relationship with ccTLDs) // /


Commentary

Business enterprises may be involved with adverse human rights
impacts either

through their own activities or as a result of their business
relationships with

other parties.  Guiding Principle 19 elaborates further on the
implications for

how business enterprises should address these situations.  For the
purpose of

these Guiding Principles a business enterprise’s
“activities” are understood

to include both actions and omissions; and its “business
relationships” are

understood to include relationships with business partners,
entities in its

value chain, and any other non-State or State entity directly
linked to its

business operations, products or services

  

  

Commentary on Principle 19

  

The more complex the situation and its implications for human
rights, the

stronger is the case for the enterprise to draw on independent
expert advice

in deciding how to respond.  */(ICANN is the body to make
decisions on tlds - there is not another expert body)/*

If the business enterprise has leverage to prevent or mitigate the
adverse

impact, it should exercise it.  And if it lacks leverage there may
be ways for

the enterprise to increase it.  Leverage may be increased by, for
example,

offering capacity-building or other incentives to the related
entity, or

collaborating with other actors.  */(ICANN should not be asked to
put political leverage on a government - it will destroy its
apolitical role)/**//*

*//*

There are situations in which the enterprise lacks the leverage to
prevent

or mitigate adverse impacts and is unable to increase its
leverage.  Here,

the enterprise should consider ending the relationship, taking
into account

credible assessments of potential adverse human rights impacts of
doing so.  *(ICANN cannot consider ending a relationship with a
cctld and still operate the IANA functions )***

** * ** *It seems to me that Ruggie Principles basically are
saying if another party in which you are in a business
relationship continues to breach human rights you should consider
ending the relationship.

this is just what ICANN can NOT do with a ccTLD or even some TLD
operators if it is going to continue to be the protocol
coordinator of a single Interoperable Internet.

But if it does not breach these relationships one can just see the
level of litigation from human rights and dissident groups which
could be brought against ICANN if it does adopt these principles
without amendment.

Paul



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