On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Greg

I'm willing to put the work in now. It's those who aren't who will delay the process and the result.

+1 and i don't think we will be on this list if we are not interested (certainly not for me). I mainly joined because i value HR and would like to learn/be part of the process that attempts to integrated that into the governing document of an organisation like ICANN which is supposed to be(arguably) largely technical.

In the long run, even if its finally concluded that HR cannot be added into ICANN governing document, it should be based on clear and convincing rationale, same should also apply if HR elements is to be included.

Looking forward to the deliberation, which has already started by the way ;-)

Cheers!




We cannot adopt a bylaws change on the basis of "caveat emptor."  (A little Latin always elevates a discussion....)

Greg

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:
I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas -- starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite damaging....

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:


On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
> Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.


I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.  Please do
not cheapen this discussion.

avri


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