Dear All,
I have spent years discussing ,arguing, disagreeing, disputing and finally agreed to just have a very high level refernce  to UN DECLARATION on human rights   and INTERNATIONAL Covenant on civil and political rights
That all
Not writing an essay nor a book.
The more precise ,concise, general and high level, the better
Regards
Kavouss

2015-08-07 0:13 GMT+02:00 Nigel Roberts <nigel@channelisles.net>:
And I agree with Greg. Again.

But in British English, that '500 year old colloquialism' is current idiom.

Where I sit, it carries absolutely no hidden meaning or (a more modern idiom) "dog-whistle politics".





On 08/06/2015 08:34 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the
discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a
discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political
correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not
inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas --
starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite
damaging....

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org
<mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:



    On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
    > Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.


    I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.  Please do
    not cheapen this discussion.

    avri


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