Avri,

same tactics as usual.

Not unexpected.

el

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On Aug 6, 2015, at 20:44, Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc@gmail.com> wrote:

Avri,

You are certainly entitled to express yourself, and I look forward to a robust and productive discussion.  Again, there is no intention to obfuscate.  The intention is to clarify, which I believe will build a stronger consensus.

Greg

On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org> wrote:

Hi,

Freedom of expression allows me to object to the statements you make.
I asked nicely, with a please even.  I did not attempt to regulate you
speech.

I am objecting to what I perceive to be tactics to obfuscate and make
things seem hidden and nefarious.
That too is freedom of expression.

avri


On 06-Aug-15 15:34, Greg Shatan wrote:
> I really don't think using a 500 year old colloquialism "cheapens the
> discussion."  I also find it ironic to find this admonition in a
> discussion about, inter alia, freedom of expression.  Political
> correctness, trigger words, and other such stuff are a not
> inconsequential threat to freedom of expression and freedom of ideas
> -- starting with a kernel of good intentions, and then becoming quite
> damaging....
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Avri Doria <avri@acm.org
> <mailto:avri@acm.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On 06-Aug-15 14:28, Greg Shatan wrote:
>     > Otherwise, we are just buying a pig in a poke.
>
>
>     I really have trouble with such a reference to human rights.
>     Please do
>     not cheapen this discussion.
>
>     avri
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