Exactly. Although I think Human Rights can not be take lightly, ever, even by weight, ICANN does not have the Mission spreading Human Rights, but it has to respect them in its Mission. el -- Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Aug 4, 2015, at 23:01, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear All We are not expected to act as UN Group on Human right Nor we should represent or defend the interest of a particular country We should take a light weight approach and find a very high level senario. I do not agree with those who copy ans paste a wish of a particular entity. We must safeguard and protect ever body with different conviction, different culature, different line of thinking Regards KAVOUSS

2015-08-04 15:40 GMT+02:00 Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org>:

...

Dear All,

Thank you to all who volunteered to be a part of WP4 addressing the issue of human and fundamental rights.

The current list of volunteers include:

· Leon Sanchez

· Mathieu Weill

· Thomas Rickert

· Avri Doria

· Robin Gross

· Nigel Roberts

· Eberhard Lisse

· Matthew Shears

· David McAuley

· Greg Shatan

· Paul Twomey

· Jorge Cancio

· Seun Ojedeji

· Jordan Carter

· Stephanie Perrin

· David Einhorn

· Kavouss Arasteh

· Olga Cavalli

· Rafik Dammak

· Suzanne Radell

· Phil Buckingham

· Martin Boyle

· Marilia Maciel

· Markus Kummer

· Marilyn Cade

· Samantha Eisner

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I think that, with a bit of discussion, Dr Lisse's words could easily form the bedrock of laying out the territory for what is required by way of accountability. So ICANN should not become a forum for the worthy, but wide, human rights agenda. But it should, at its heart, embrace and respect fundamental rights of all (including companies) when carrying out its work. You see, the whole purpose of a multistakeholder body, is to carry out, in an inclusive and transparent manner, certain tasks that in the last centure, would have been expected to be carried out by public authorities (i.e. Governments) within the boundaries of the nation-state. Globalisation and the very nature of the Internet, inter alia, means that for the co-ordination of the internet's sytsem of unique identifiers, in particular, the old approach does not work very well. But we must find a way, within this new model to avoid deletion or dilution of existing human rights (whether by accident or design) through the adoption of multistakeholderism. On 11/08/15 11:47, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

Dr. +1

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On 5 Aug 2015, at 00:31, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el@lisse.na <mailto:el@lisse.na>> wrote:

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Exactly.

Although I think Human Rights can not be take lightly, ever, even by weight, ICANN does not have the Mission spreading Human Rights, but it has to respect them in its Mission.

el

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On Aug 4, 2015, at 23:01, Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com <mailto:kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com>> wrote:

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Dear All We are not expected to act as UN Group on Human right Nor we should represent or defend the interest of a particular country We should take a light weight approach and find a very high level senario. I do not agree with those who copy ans paste a wish of a particular entity. We must safeguard and protect ever body with different conviction, different culature, different line of thinking Regards KAVOUSS

2015-08-04 15:40 GMT+02:00 Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org <mailto:kimberly.carlson@icann.org>>:

Dear All,____

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Thank you to all who volunteered to be a part of WP4 addressing the issue of human and fundamental rights. ____

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The current list of volunteers include:____

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· Leon Sanchez____

· Mathieu Weill____

· Thomas Rickert____

· Avri Doria____

· Robin Gross____

· Nigel Roberts____

· Eberhard Lisse____

· Matthew Shears____

· David McAuley____

· Greg Shatan____

· Paul Twomey____

· Jorge Cancio____

· Seun Ojedeji____

· Jordan Carter____

· Stephanie Perrin____

· David Einhorn____

· Kavouss Arasteh____

· Olga Cavalli____

· Rafik Dammak____

· Suzanne Radell____

· Phil Buckingham____

· Martin Boyle____

· Marilia Maciel____

· Markus Kummer____

· Marilyn Cade____

· Samantha Eisner____

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We are still gathering names and working out details. Upcoming and ongoing activities of this group can be followed on the dedicated wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/io5CAw____

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Dear All, I fully agree with Dr. Eberhard and Seun. Kavouss 2015-08-05 1:04 GMT+02:00 Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji@gmail.com>:

+1 on this as well. We need to let it be clear that ICANN is a technical organisation. I don't think HR is hard-coded in other ICANN related organisation's governing documents; Not for the RIRs and most likely not for IETF as well. However, those organisations have ensured to put in place rules/guidelines that respect the rights of its members and community. I can also guess many ccTLD don't even have human rights of its nation included in its governing documents yet some of them has been as inclusive and respective of those rights as much as possible in their processes.

For an HR novice like me, I expect the experts on this topic would ensure to avoid formalising HR in a manner that would further expose the organisation to a more bureaucratic environment far beyond what it is already into.

Looking forward to the discussions.

Regards On 4 Aug 2015 11:02 pm, "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh@gmail.com> wrote:

...

Dear All We are not expected to act as UN Group on Human right Nor we should represent or defend the interest of a particular country We should take a light weight approach and find a very high level senario. I do not agree with those who copy ans paste a wish of a particular entity. We must safeguard and protect ever body with different conviction, different culature, different line of thinking Regards KAVOUSS

2015-08-04 15:40 GMT+02:00 Kimberly Carlson <kimberly.carlson@icann.org>:

...

Dear All,

Thank you to all who volunteered to be a part of WP4 addressing the issue of human and fundamental rights.

The current list of volunteers include:

· Leon Sanchez

· Mathieu Weill

· Thomas Rickert

· Avri Doria

· Robin Gross

· Nigel Roberts

· Eberhard Lisse

· Matthew Shears

· David McAuley

· Greg Shatan

· Paul Twomey

· Jorge Cancio

· Seun Ojedeji

· Jordan Carter

· Stephanie Perrin

· David Einhorn

· Kavouss Arasteh

· Olga Cavalli

· Rafik Dammak

· Suzanne Radell

· Phil Buckingham

· Martin Boyle

· Marilia Maciel

· Markus Kummer

· Marilyn Cade

· Samantha Eisner

We are still gathering names and working out details. Upcoming and ongoing activities of this group can be followed on the dedicated wiki: https://community.icann.org/x/io5CAw

The email for this group is: WP4@icann.org.

Best Regards,

Kim Carlson

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